[ANN] ssMacWindows 1.1.0

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[ANN] ssMacWindows 1.1.0

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Just a small update that includes some nice features for game
developers (and other developers who need these features too)..

- Switch display resolution and colour depth
- Fade the display over a period of time and with any colour

When switching the display resolution the screen automatically fades
to blue before the switch and then fades out from the blue to show you
the new resolution.

Resolution switching is also only temporary while your application is
running (you can restore it automatically in your application or the
system will automatically do it when your application quits).

The four window transitions have been renamed to be a little more
clear about what they do (the old command names still work and always
will).

More information and download link:
< http://www.shaosean.tk/ssMacWindows.html >

Thank you for all your support and if there is something you would
like to see in a future build, please feel free to contact me off-list
and I will see what I can do..

-Sean
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Mark Schonewille-3

Re: [ANN] ssMacWindows 1.1.0

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Thanks, Sean. Some of those features are what I have always missed in
Revolution, such as bouncing in the dock. I'm sure I'll make good use
of this application.

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On 4 nov 2009, at 22:30, Shao Sean wrote:

> Just a small update that includes some nice features for game
> developers (and other developers who need these features too)..
>
> - Switch display resolution and colour depth
> - Fade the display over a period of time and with any colour
>
> When switching the display resolution the screen automatically fades
> to blue before the switch and then fades out from the blue to show
> you the new resolution.
>
> Resolution switching is also only temporary while your application
> is running (you can restore it automatically in your application or
> the system will automatically do it when your application quits).
>
>
> The four window transitions have been renamed to be a little more
> clear about what they do (the old command names still work and
> always will).
>
>
> More information and download link:
> < http://www.shaosean.tk/ssMacWindows.html >
>
>
> Thank you for all your support and if there is something you would
> like to see in a future build, please feel free to contact me off-
> list and I will see what I can do..
>
> -Sean

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Shao Sean-2

Re: [ANN] ssMacWindows 1.1.0

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Glad you like it Mark, I am having lots of fun learning and writing
it.. Am already hard at work on the next build (will try to add more
than two features ;)
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Klaus on-rev

Re: [ANN] ssMacWindows 1.1.0

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Hi Sean,

> Just a small update that includes some nice features for game
> developers (and other developers who need these features too)..
> - Switch display resolution and colour depth
> - Fade the display over a period of time and with any colour
> When switching the display resolution the screen automatically fades
> to blue before the switch and then fades out from the blue to show
> you the new resolution.
> Resolution switching is also only temporary while your application
> is running (you can restore it automatically in your application or
> the system will automatically do it when your application quits).
>
> The four window transitions have been renamed to be a little more
> clear about what they do (the old command names still work and
> always will).
>
> More information and download link:
> < http://www.shaosean.tk/ssMacWindows.html >
>
> Thank you for all your support and if there is something you would
> like to see in a future build, please feel free to contact me off-
> list and I will see what I can do..

not bad for your limited skills! :-D
(Insider joke ;-)

But maybe you could unify the names fo your commands like a prefix
"ssWin_" or something
so they will not possibly collide with the names of user handlers,
e.g. I already have a custom
handler named "fadeWindow", know what I mean?

I think now is still time to change this.

Anyway, a wonderful enhancement to Rev, thanks a LOT!

> -Sean

Best

Klaus

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Mark Schonewille-3

Re: [ANN] ssMacWindows 1.1.0

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Klaus, Sean,

Please don't use a prefix with an underscore. It messes up my
beautiful code and required me to type two keys extra. If you keep the
names of the commands as short as possible, you reduce the total
number of key presses by millions per year (assuming that RunRev has
at least thousands of users). If you really need a prefix, just limit
it so "ss" as you're already doing in the bundle names and some
command and function names.

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Op 5 nov 2009, om 10:04 heeft Klaus Major het volgende geschreven:

> Hi Sean,
>
>> Just a small update that includes some nice features for game
>> developers (and other developers who need these features too)..
>> - Switch display resolution and colour depth
>> - Fade the display over a period of time and with any colour
>> When switching the display resolution the screen automatically
>> fades to blue before the switch and then fades out from the blue to
>> show you the new resolution.
>> Resolution switching is also only temporary while your application
>> is running (you can restore it automatically in your application or
>> the system will automatically do it when your application quits).
>>
>> The four window transitions have been renamed to be a little more
>> clear about what they do (the old command names still work and
>> always will).
>>
>> More information and download link:
>> < http://www.shaosean.tk/ssMacWindows.html >
>>
>> Thank you for all your support and if there is something you would
>> like to see in a future build, please feel free to contact me off-
>> list and I will see what I can do..
>
> not bad for your limited skills! :-D
> (Insider joke ;-)
>
> But maybe you could unify the names fo your commands like a prefix
> "ssWin_" or something
> so they will not possibly collide with the names of user handlers,
> e.g. I already have a custom
> handler named "fadeWindow", know what I mean?
>
> I think now is still time to change this.
>
> Anyway, a wonderful enhancement to Rev, thanks a LOT!
>
>> -Sean
>
> Best
>
> Klaus

Jan Schenkel

Re: [ANN] ssMacWindows 1.1.0

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To each their own coding style of course, but I prefer the prefix-and-underscore approach as it avoids conflicts between libraries from different origins, and allows me to quickly see what library my call is in.

Such clues help compensate for having the memory of a goldfish ;-)

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--- On Thu, 11/5/09, Mark Schonewille <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Klaus, Sean,
>
> Please don't use a prefix with an underscore. It messes up
> my beautiful code and required me to type two keys extra. If
> you keep the names of the commands as short as possible, you
> reduce the total number of key presses by millions per year
> (assuming that RunRev has at least thousands of users). If
> you really need a prefix, just limit it so "ss" as you're
> already doing in the bundle names and some command and
> function names.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Mark Schonewille
>

Mark Schonewille-3

Re: [ANN] ssMacWindows 1.1.0

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I'm very much against it. It is soooo not xTalk!

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Op 5 nov 2009, om 11:57 heeft Jan Schenkel het volgende geschreven:

> To each their own coding style of course, but I prefer the prefix-
> and-underscore approach as it avoids conflicts between libraries
> from different origins, and allows me to quickly see what library my
> call is in.
>
> Such clues help compensate for having the memory of a goldfish ;-)
>
> Jan Schenkel
> =====
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> <http://www.quartam.com>
>

Jim Ault

Re: [ANN] ssMacWindows 1.1.0

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Just a thought
You could add the optional functionality of a 'hash table' so that an
author could choose an alias to your library if they wish.
The best speed for your library would be 'aliases off'

Jim Ault
Las Vegas

On Nov 5, 2009, at 2:40 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

> Klaus, Sean,
>
> Please don't use a prefix with an underscore. It messes up my
> beautiful code and required me to type two keys extra. If you keep
> the names of the commands as short as possible, you reduce the total
> number of key presses by millions per year (assuming that RunRev has
> at least thousands of users). If you really need a prefix, just
> limit it so "ss" as you're already doing in the bundle names and
> some command and function names.
>
> Mark Schonewille

> Op 5 nov 2009, om 10:04 heeft Klaus Major het volgende geschreven:
>
>> Hi Sean,
>>
>>> Just a small update that includes some nice features for game
>>> developers (and other developers who need these features too)..
>>> - Switch display resolution and colour depth
>>> - Fade the display over a period of time and with any colour
>>> When switching the display resolution the screen automatically
>>> fades to blue before the switch and then fades out from the blue
>>> to show you the new resolution.
>>> Resolution switching is also only temporary while your application
>>> is running (you can restore it automatically in your application
>>> or the system will automatically do it when your application quits).
>>>
>>> The four window transitions have been renamed to be a little more
>>> clear about what they do (the old command names still work and
>>> always will).
>>>
>>> More information and download link:
>>> < http://www.shaosean.tk/ssMacWindows.html >
>>>
>>> Thank you for all your support and if there is something you would
>>> like to see in a future build, please feel free to contact me off-
>>> list and I will see what I can do..
>>
>> not bad for your limited skills! :-D
>> (Insider joke ;-)
>>
>> But maybe you could unify the names fo your commands like a prefix
>> "ssWin_" or something
>> so they will not possibly collide with the names of user handlers,
>> e.g. I already have a custom
>> handler named "fadeWindow", know what I mean?
>>
>> I think now is still time to change this.
>>
>> Anyway, a wonderful enhancement to Rev, thanks a LOT!
>>
>>> -Sean
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Klaus

Shao Sean-2

Re: [ANN] ssMacWindows 1.1.0

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> But maybe you could unify the names fo your commands like a prefix
> "ssWin_"

I had thought about doing this.. more to keep people from thinking
that it was built-in and then wondering why it does not work when they
go to another computer ;-) but I choose to make the commands a little
easier to write.. seeing as it is a really simple matter to add
additional aliases for the same commands in the external I could add
"ss" to every command (and still leave the non-prefixed commands in
there too)..

> "fadeWindow", know what I mean?
Well for this particular command there are now three ways to call it,
so pick the one that does not collide with your custom command :D
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Oh, I totally agree with you in principle; in fact, the one thing AppleScript got right, was the addition of prepositional parameters <http://www.ditchnet.org/wp/2005/09/08/fun-with-applescripts-prepositional-parameters/>

It would be agreat

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--- On Thu, 11/5/09, Mark Schonewille <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Mark Schonewille <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [ANN] ssMacWindows 1.1.0
> To: "How to use Revolution" <[hidden email]>
> Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 3:01 AM
> I'm very much against it. It is soooo
> not xTalk!
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Mark Schonewille
>
> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
>
> Download Strõm Flow Chart Software
> http://flowproject.economy-x-talk.com
>
> Op 5 nov 2009, om 11:57 heeft Jan Schenkel het volgende
> geschreven:
>
> > To each their own coding style of course, but I prefer
> the prefix-and-underscore approach as it avoids conflicts
> between libraries from different origins, and allows me to
> quickly see what library my call is in.
> >
> > Such clues help compensate for having the memory of a
> goldfish ;-)
> >
> > Jan Schenkel
> > =====
> > Quartam Reports & PDF Library for Revolution
> > <http://www.quartam.com>
> >
>
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Trevor DeVore

Re: [ANN] ssMacWindows 1.1.0

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On Nov 5, 2009, at 7:13 AM, Shao Sean wrote:

>> "fadeWindow", know what I mean?
> Well for this particular command there are now three ways to call
> it, so pick the one that does not collide with your custom command :D

Your external command is most likely still in the message path and
could be called instead of Klaus's. IMO If you want to distribute
*libraries* (which an external is typically used as) to others in
Revolution you really should consider a prefix. No, it isn't as pretty
as the regular syntax but seeing as Revolution has no concept of
namespaces for custom code library developers don't have a lot of
options if they don't want their commands interfering with other code.

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Oh, I totally agree with you in principle; in fact, the one thing AppleScript got right, was the addition of prepositional parameters <http://www.ditchnet.org/wp/2005/09/08/fun-with-applescripts-prepositional-parameters/>

It would be a great day for xTalk when the RunRev team allows us to add natural syntax to both script and external commands and functions, and offer some sort of namespace protection while they're at it.
But in the meantime, the prefix-and-underscore style works jsut as well now as it did back in the HyperCard days.

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Shao Sean-2

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> Your external command is most likely still in the message path

Where do externals sit in the message path? I always thought they sat
just before the engine therefore any custom command with the same name
as the external would run instead of the external code..
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On Nov 5, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Shao Sean wrote:

>> Your external command is most likely still in the message path
>
> Where do externals sit in the message path? I always thought they
> sat just before the engine therefore any custom command with the
> same name as the external would run instead of the external code..

An external is attached to a particular stack. In order to make the
externalCommands and externalFunctions of the stack available to all
scripts the stack has to be put in use as a library. Wherever the
library stack sits in the message path is where the externalCommands/
externalFunctions for the external reside.

* If the Revolution IDE is loading an external at launch then the
external is attached to the home stack.

* When Revolution builds a standalone and you include an external a
special substack named revExternalLibrary is created. The externals
your standalone uses are attached to the stack and the stack is put in
use.

* If the developer is loading an external on their own then you don't
know which stack/where in the message hierarchy it will appear.

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