Aerial winterpano

[Peter Krone]

--- In [hidden email], "Juergen Schrader" <panorama@...>
wrote:
> It took them just minutes to
> blow 3.000 m^3 of air into the shell and heat it to carry the load.

Hi Jürgen,
was it really hot air? I cannot see the burner. The blimp looks to me
like it is filled with helium.

Anyway, brilliant shot!

Peter

[Willy Kaemena-2]

But I can see a propane bottle.......

well I can "fly"  without blimp and bottle......

200m high

Willy

On Jan 29, 2007, at 11:00, Peter Krone wrote:

> --- In [hidden email], "Juergen Schrader" <panorama@...>
> wrote:
> > It took them just minutes to
> > blow 3.000 m^3 of air into the shell and heat it to carry the load.
>
> Hi Jürgen,
> was it really hot air? I cannot see the burner. The blimp looks to me
> like it is filled with helium.
>
> Anyway, brilliant shot!
>
> Peter
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[KimHyung]

Hi,

I can't open the panorama. It shows an error message saying "ERROR: Error
parsing XML; Unexpected start of xml string". Am I the only one to see this
error? I am using Windows XP Home Edition (SP2) with Internet Explorer ver
6.0. Of couse I have Shockwave Player installed.

Regards,

hyung

>From: "Juergen Schrader" <[hidden email]>
>Reply-To: [hidden email]
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Aerial winterpano
>Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 15:31:39 -0000
>
>Shot on Friday (5D/10.5) and I am still sooooo excited :)))
>
>http://schrader-air.de/panorama/badwiessee/
>
>Yet I am working on another one from much lower. And of course there
>are a couple from the ground.
>
>Stitching and blending wasn't trivial since that baby is always
>moving and besides the cabin there are no reliable static features to
>place control points. The "cap" was a real pain since the pilot
>wanted me to fix the camera to a rope which forced me to hold the
>camera and monopod at head level while shooting.
>
>Enjoy
>J?gen
>

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[Willy Kaemena-2]

I can see a propane bottle...

but I can fly without blimp and bottle

http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Nasserieh/NassSite200m24012007/


Willy

On Jan 29, 2007, at 11:00, Peter Krone wrote:

> --- In [hidden email], "Juergen Schrader" <panorama@...>
> wrote:
> > It took them just minutes to
> > blow 3.000 m^3 of air into the shell and heat it to carry the load.
>
> Hi Jürgen,
> was it really hot air? I cannot see the burner. The blimp looks to me
> like it is filled with helium.
>
> Anyway, brilliant shot!
>
> Peter
>
>
>

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[Pat Swovelin-2]

[hidden email] wrote:
> But I can see a propane bottle.......
>
> well I can "fly" without blimp and bottle......
>
> 200m high

Yeah ... but that's a one-way trip and you can only do it once (unless
you're wearing a BASE rig).      =8^)

> Willy
>
> On Jan 29, 2007, at 11:00, Peter Krone wrote:
>
>> --- In [hidden email], "Juergen Schrader" <panorama@...>
>> wrote:
>>> It took them just minutes to
>>> blow 3.000 m^3 of air into the shell and heat it to carry the load.
>> Hi Jürgen,
>> was it really hot air? I cannot see the burner. The blimp looks to me
>> like it is filled with helium.
>>
>> Anyway, brilliant shot!
>>
>> Peter

Pat Swovelin
Cool Guy @ Large

[Ingemar Bergmark]

Help! I'd love to be able to see this great panorama, but for some
reason it doesn't display at all :-(

I'm running Windows XP, and tried with IE7, Firefox and Opera. All
with the same result on two separate PC's.

Actually I went to schrader-air.de and had the same problem with all
Flash panoramas. QTVR is OK.
I updated to the latest flash player version 9.0.28.0 (I had
9.0.16.0), but still no luck.

I get these messages;
Engine initialised.
Loading 'www.schrader-air.de/panorama/badwiessee/airovision.xml'
Importing 'www.schrader-air.de/panorama/badwiessee/airovision.xml'
ERROR: Error parsing XML; unexpected start of xml string

Anybody else with these problems?

Best Regards,
Ingemar Bergmark
http://panoramas.bergmark.com

[jrgen_schrader]

I am sorry for this, but I have no idea what might be the cause.
I've asked Aldo, maybe he has an idea.



--- In [hidden email], "Kim Hyung" <kimsangwook77@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I can't open the panorama. It shows an error message saying "ERROR:
Error
> parsing XML; Unexpected start of xml string". Am I the only one to
see this
> error? I am using Windows XP Home Edition (SP2) with Internet
Explorer ver
> 6.0. Of couse I have Shockwave Player installed.
>
> Regards,
>
> hyung
>

[Luca Vascon]

4 angles technique....
:-)

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: [hidden email]
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Aerial winterpano


  I can see a propane bottle...

  but I can fly without blimp and bottle

  http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Nasserieh/NassSite200m24012007/

  Willy

  On Jan 29, 2007, at 11:00, Peter Krone wrote:

  > --- In [hidden email], "Juergen Schrader" <panorama@...>
  > wrote:
  > > It took them just minutes to
  > > blow 3.000 m^3 of air into the shell and heat it to carry the load.
  >
  > Hi Jürgen,
  > was it really hot air? I cannot see the burner. The blimp looks to me
  > like it is filled with helium.
  >
  > Anyway, brilliant shot!
  >
  > Peter
  >
  >
  >

  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



   

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[panobucko]

FWIW there is a Shockwave  Ver 10.1.4.020 which I had to download
before being able to access Jurgen's neat image using Windows and
Firefox, see the link Adobe below...

http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?


--- In [hidden email], "Ingemar Bergmark" <ingemar@...>
wrote:

>
> Help! I'd love to be able to see this great panorama, but for some
> reason it doesn't display at all :-(
>
> I'm running Windows XP, and tried with IE7, Firefox and Opera. All
> with the same result on two separate PC's.
>
> Actually I went to schrader-air.de and had the same problem with all
> Flash panoramas. QTVR is OK.
> I updated to the latest flash player version 9.0.28.0 (I had
> 9.0.16.0), but still no luck.
>
> I get these messages;
> Engine initialised.
> Loading 'www.schrader-air.de/panorama/badwiessee/airovision.xml'
> Importing 'www.schrader-air.de/panorama/badwiessee/airovision.xml'
> ERROR: Error parsing XML; unexpected start of xml string
>
> Anybody else with these problems?
>
> Best Regards,
> Ingemar Bergmark
> http://panoramas.bergmark.com
>

[ahoeben]

> Help! I'd love to be able to see this great panorama, but for some
> reason it doesn't display at all :-(

> Importing 'www.schrader-air.de/panorama/badwiessee/airovision.xml'
> ERROR: Error parsing XML; unexpected start of xml string

It's interesting that both you and Kim Hyung are from Korea (right?).
Could there be a country-wide proxy disabling access to the xml file?

If you go straight to the xml url:
http://www.schrader-air.de/panorama/badwiessee/airovision.xml

And can you see the panoramas on the SPi-V gallery:
http://fieldofview.com/spv-gallery

'do

PS: if you don't want to 'pollute' the Panotools list with this issue,
there's also a post about it on SPi-V dev:
http://fieldofview.com/spv-dev/node/502 

[Willy Kaemena-2]

NO...... ;P
On Jan 29, 2007, at 16:02, Luca Vascon wrote:

> 4 angles technique....
> :-)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [hidden email]
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Aerial winterpano
>
> I can see a propane bottle...
>
> but I can fly without blimp and bottle
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Nasserieh/NassSite200m24012007/
>
> Willy
>
> On Jan 29, 2007, at 11:00, Peter Krone wrote:
>
> > --- In [hidden email], "Juergen Schrader"  
> <panorama@...>
> > wrote:
> > > It took them just minutes to
> > > blow 3.000 m^3 of air into the shell and heat it to carry the  
> load.
> >
> > Hi Jürgen,
> > was it really hot air? I cannot see the burner. The blimp looks  
> to me
> > like it is filled with helium.
> >
> > Anyway, brilliant shot!
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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[Luca Vascon]

hunged from the crane???

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: [hidden email]
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Aerial winterpano


  NO...... ;P
  On Jan 29, 2007, at 16:02, Luca Vascon wrote:

  > 4 angles technique....
  > :-)
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: [hidden email]
  > To: [hidden email]
  > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:32 AM
  > Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Aerial winterpano
  >
  > I can see a propane bottle...
  >
  > but I can fly without blimp and bottle
  >
  > http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Nasserieh/NassSite200m24012007/
  >
  > Willy
  >
  > On Jan 29, 2007, at 11:00, Peter Krone wrote:
  >
  > > --- In [hidden email], "Juergen Schrader"
  > <panorama@...>
  > > wrote:
  > > > It took them just minutes to
  > > > blow 3.000 m^3 of air into the shell and heat it to carry the
  > load.
  > >
  > > Hi Jürgen,
  > > was it really hot air? I cannot see the burner. The blimp looks
  > to me
  > > like it is filled with helium.
  > >
  > > Anyway, brilliant shot!
  > >
  > > Peter
  > >
  > >
  > >
  >
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  >
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  >
  >
  >

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[Ingemar Bergmark]

--- In [hidden email], "ahoeben41" <aldo@...> wrote:
>
> It's interesting that both you and Kim Hyung are from Korea
> (right?). Could there be a country-wide proxy disabling access to
> the xml file?
>
> If you go straight to the xml url:
> http://www.schrader-air.de/panorama/badwiessee/airovision.xml

Actually my thoughts as well, but when I checked, the file is being
served in a corrupt state. Maybe some cached version that needs time
to "get stale" before a new version is read?


> And can you see the panoramas on the SPi-V gallery:
> http://fieldofview.com/spv-gallery
>

No problems whatsoever...


BTW. From the XML file I could make my own to force a view, and...
WOW!! it's a fantastic panorama!
Great work Juergen!

Regards,
Ingemar Bergmark
http://panoramas.bergmark.com 

[Willy Kaemena-2]

no...

16 shots around  with D200/ Nikkor8....

Willy

On Jan 29, 2007, at 18:02, Luca Vascon wrote:

> hunged from the crane???
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [hidden email]
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Aerial winterpano
>
> NO...... ;P
> On Jan 29, 2007, at 16:02, Luca Vascon wrote:
>
> > 4 angles technique....
> > :-)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: [hidden email]
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Aerial winterpano
> >
> > I can see a propane bottle...
> >
> > but I can fly without blimp and bottle
> >
> > http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Nasserieh/NassSite200m24012007/
> >
> > Willy
> >
> > On Jan 29, 2007, at 11:00, Peter Krone wrote:
> >
> > > --- In [hidden email], "Juergen Schrader"
> > <panorama@...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > It took them just minutes to
> > > > blow 3.000 m^3 of air into the shell and heat it to carry the
> > load.
> > >
> > > Hi Jürgen,
> > > was it really hot air? I cannot see the burner. The blimp looks
> > to me
> > > like it is filled with helium.
> > >
> > > Anyway, brilliant shot!
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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[udedomenico-2]

Jurgen,

it's so nice this pano!!!!!!!!!!

What can I say, I felt like I was up there... started feeling cold...

and getting dizzy!!!!!!

I just can't figure out how you did it....

I really cannot figure that out...

I thought we should see some missing hands helding everything....

and how is it possible to handle a 5D with a 10.5mm.... at that
altitude with wind....

Please tell us how you did it, more details!!!!

U.


--- In [hidden email], "Juergen Schrader" <panorama@...>
wrote:

>
> Shot on Friday (5D/10.5) and I am still sooooo excited :)))
>
> http://schrader-air.de/panorama/badwiessee/
>
> Yet I am working on another one from much lower. And of course there
> are a couple from the ground.
>
> Stitching and blending wasn't trivial since that baby is always
> moving and besides the cabin there are no reliable static features to
> place control points. The "cap" was a real pain since the pilot
> wanted me to fix the camera to a rope which forced me to hold the
> camera and monopod at head level while shooting.
>
> Enjoy
> Jürgen
>

[udedomenico-2]

Hello Willy,

your pic is another great masterpiece!!!!!!!!!!

may ask you how did you do it too?

It sounds so misterious to me how you guys can do such tricks and
nothing appears in the pano??!?!?!

How the hell does it work?!?!?!?!

U.

--- In [hidden email], panokaemena@... wrote:

>
> But I can see a propane bottle.......
>
> well I can "fly"  without blimp and bottle......
>
> 200m high
>
> Willy
>
> On Jan 29, 2007, at 11:00, Peter Krone wrote:
>
> > --- In [hidden email], "Juergen Schrader" <panorama@>
> > wrote:
> > > It took them just minutes to
> > > blow 3.000 m^3 of air into the shell and heat it to carry the

load.
> >
> > Hi Jürgen,
> > was it really hot air? I cannot see the burner. The blimp looks
to me

> > like it is filled with helium.
> >
> > Anyway, brilliant shot!
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Luca Vascon]

So the 4 angles technique!!!
:-DDD
I did the SAME with the towers here in Venice.
But I did only 8, I had time and relaxing...

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: [hidden email]
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 7:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Aerial winterpano


  no...

  16 shots around with D200/ Nikkor8....

  Willy

  On Jan 29, 2007, at 18:02, Luca Vascon wrote:

  > hunged from the crane???
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: [hidden email]
  > To: [hidden email]
  > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:03 PM
  > Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Aerial winterpano
  >
  > NO...... ;P
  > On Jan 29, 2007, at 16:02, Luca Vascon wrote:
  >
  > > 4 angles technique....
  > > :-)
  > >
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: [hidden email]
  > > To: [hidden email]
  > > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:32 AM
  > > Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Aerial winterpano
  > >
  > > I can see a propane bottle...
  > >
  > > but I can fly without blimp and bottle
  > >
  > > http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Nasserieh/NassSite200m24012007/
  > >
  > > Willy
  > >
  > > On Jan 29, 2007, at 11:00, Peter Krone wrote:
  > >
  > > > --- In [hidden email], "Juergen Schrader"
  > > <panorama@...>
  > > > wrote:
  > > > > It took them just minutes to
  > > > > blow 3.000 m^3 of air into the shell and heat it to carry the
  > > load.
  > > >
  > > > Hi Jürgen,
  > > > was it really hot air? I cannot see the burner. The blimp looks
  > > to me
  > > > like it is filled with helium.
  > > >
  > > > Anyway, brilliant shot!
  > > >
  > > > Peter
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >
  > >
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  > >
  > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  > >
  > >
  > >
  >
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  >
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  >
  >
  >

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[panocanarias]

Sorry, What?
Luca, Willy: Will you guys please tell me, what you'r talking about?
I suppose "4 angles technique" does not mean "4 shots around" ?
Thank you,
Klaus

> Luca wrote:
>
> So the 4 angles technique!!!
> :-DDD
> I did the SAME with the towers here in Venice.
> But I did only 8, I had time and relaxing...
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: panokaemena@...
>   To: [hidden email]
>   Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 7:39 PM
>   Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Aerial winterpano
>
>
>   no...
>
>   16 shots around with D200/ Nikkor8....
>
>   Willy
>
>   On Jan 29, 2007, at 18:02, Luca Vascon wrote:
>
>   > hunged from the crane???
>   >

>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: panokaemena@...
>   > To: [hidden email]
>   > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:03 PM
>   > Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Aerial winterpano
>   >
>   > NO...... ;P


>   > On Jan 29, 2007, at 16:02, Luca Vascon wrote:
>   >
>   > > 4 angles technique....
>   > > :-)
>  > >

[Willy Kaemena-2]

I took 16 photos around with an offset from the center of 30m


Willy



On Jan 30, 2007, at 2:35, Klaus Hilsenbeck wrote:

> Sorry, What?
> Luca, Willy: Will you guys please tell me, what you'r talking about?
> I suppose "4 angles technique" does not mean "4 shots around" ?
> Thank you,
> Klaus
>
> > Luca wrote:
> >
> > So the 4 angles technique!!!
> > :-DDD
> > I did the SAME with the towers here in Venice.
> > But I did only 8, I had time and relaxing...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: panokaemena@...
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 7:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Aerial winterpano
> >
> >
> > no...
> >
> > 16 shots around with D200/ Nikkor8....
> >
> > Willy
> >
> > On Jan 29, 2007, at 18:02, Luca Vascon wrote:
> >
> > > hunged from the crane???
> > >
>
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: panokaemena@...
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:03 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Aerial winterpano
> > >
> > > NO...... ;P
>
> > > On Jan 29, 2007, at 16:02, Luca Vascon wrote:
> > >
> > > > 4 angles technique....
> > > > :-)
> > > >
>
>
>

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[Pat Swovelin-2]

[hidden email] wrote:
> I took 16 photos around with an offset from the center of 30m

So what was the NPP setting on that?      =8^)

> Willy
>
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2007, at 2:35, Klaus Hilsenbeck wrote:
>
>> Sorry, What?
>> Luca, Willy: Will you guys please tell me, what you'r talking about?
>> I suppose "4 angles technique" does not mean "4 shots around" ?
>> Thank you,
>> Klaus
>>
>>> Luca wrote:
>>>
>>> So the 4 angles technique!!!
>>> :-DDD
>>> I did the SAME with the towers here in Venice.
>>> But I did only 8, I had time and relaxing...
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: panokaemena@...
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 7:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Aerial winterpano
>>>
>>>
>>> no...
>>>
>>> 16 shots around with D200/ Nikkor8....
>>>
>>> Willy
>>>
>>> On Jan 29, 2007, at 18:02, Luca Vascon wrote:
>>>
>>>> hunged from the crane???
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: panokaemena@...
>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:03 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Aerial winterpano
>>>>
>>>> NO...... ;P
>>>> On Jan 29, 2007, at 16:02, Luca Vascon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 4 angles technique....
>>>>> :-)

Pat Swovelin
Cool Guy @ Large