Favorite Battery Hydrometer?

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John G. Lussmyer

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So, I need to buy a Hydrometer to check my batteries.
Any suggestions on a "good" one?

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On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:03 PM, John G. Lussmyer <[hidden email]>wrote:

> So, I need to buy a Hydrometer to check my batteries.
> Any suggestions on a "good" one?
>

A while back, someone mentioned a Misco hydrometer and I found a 7084VP on
ebay for 30 bucks shipped.  It actually reads 1.265 SG on some acid I bought
from NAPA - it says 1.265 on the box.  The cheap floaty hydrometer I had
read 20 pts too low.  The Misco requires only a drop of electrolyte and can
be held at any angle once the drop is placed on it.  I do find it tricky to
get my eyes to focus on the chart when looking through the viewer.  I ended
up removing the eyepiece lens and just holding the eyepiece an inch or two
from my face.  It's small, but now I can read it.  It's great accuracy
compensates this slight trouble.  I'd recommend it.

Joe
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> So, I need to buy a Hydrometer to check my batteries.
> Any suggestions on a "good" one?
>
Hello John,

Here is a source that I use:

http://www.remybattery.com/Products/Professional-Battery-Hydrometer---00232_00232.aspx

If this address does not work, then just use www.remybattery.com

Roland

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> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:03 PM, John G. Lussmyer <[hidden email]>wrote:
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>> So, I need to buy a Hydrometer to check my batteries.
>> Any suggestions on a "good" one?

The Misco refractometer can be calibrated at freezing point using
distilled water and the 'other' scale.

John

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I just bought this one "Glycol & battery tester misco products 7084VP"
for $10 bucks including shipping, item # 190345335169
after getting some info from the list.  hopefully it works?
Rod

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> From: JS <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Favorite Battery Hydrometer?
> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[hidden email]>
> Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 8:50 PM
> Joe wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:03 PM, John G. Lussmyer
> <[hidden email]>wrote:
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> >> So, I need to buy a Hydrometer to check my
> batteries.
> >> Any suggestions on a "good" one?
>
> The Misco refractometer can be calibrated at freezing point
> using
> distilled water and the 'other' scale.
>
> John
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> So, I need to buy a Hydrometer to check my batteries.
> Any suggestions on a "good" one?

http://electroauto.com/catalog/tools.shtml#hydro

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> I just bought this one "Glycol & battery tester misco products 7084VP"
> for $10 bucks including shipping, item # 190345335169 after
> getting some info from the list.  hopefully it works?

$10 is a steal for this instrument!  Be sure to check the calibration by placing a drop of distilled water on the measuring window and adjust the screw on the bottom of the instrument until the freezing point reads +32F.

Misco states that the instrument undergoes a 2 point calibration at the factory, but as far as I can tell the only thing you can do in the field is the single-point calibration described above.  If you have access to electrolyte of a known SG, or to anti-freeze of a known freezing point, you should also check that the instrument reads accurately somewhere else on the scale after adjusting the 'zero' point.

We have several of these that we use in our battery/charger testing and have had one that went out of cal such that it was inaccurate at high SG despite being accurate at 1.000/+32F with distilled water.

To get a nice crisp indication on the scale, it is important to keep the sample window clean.  You must wipe it dry between samples, and if you notice that the line between the light and dark portions of the screen is "fuzzy" instead of crisp when taking a reading, then clean the sample window and the cover with isopropyl alcohol.

You may also find that the battery in the sample cover has died.  You can order a replacement cover (the battery is sealed inside it and is non-replacable) from Misco and change it yourself if you wish.  The red LED illumination really does make the scale easier to read, but in a pinch you can get away with just pointing the 7084 at a light source while reading it (it may help to remove the label from the viewpoint cover to let more ambient light through if you need to use it without the battery).

Lastly, I hear that the red-bodied version of these is an older model and is less accurate than the newer orange-bodied version.  I believe yours would have to be several years old if it isn't orange-bodied.

Cheers,

Roger.

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Roger,
Thanks for all the great information!
I bought one from Autozone and it was pretty much useless.
I figure for $10 I can't go wrong.
This one has an orange body, so it must be a newer meter.
Thanks again,
Rod

--- On Thu, 11/5/09, Roger Stockton <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Roger Stockton <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Favorite Battery Hydrometer?
> To: "'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'" <[hidden email]>
> Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 12:49 PM
> [hidden email]
> wrote:
>
> > I just bought this one "Glycol & battery tester
> misco products 7084VP"
> > for $10 bucks including shipping, item # 190345335169
> after
> > getting some info from the list.  hopefully it
> works?
>
> $10 is a steal for this instrument!  Be sure to check
> the calibration by placing a drop of distilled water on the
> measuring window and adjust the screw on the bottom of the
> instrument until the freezing point reads +32F.
>
> Misco states that the instrument undergoes a 2 point
> calibration at the factory, but as far as I can tell the
> only thing you can do in the field is the single-point
> calibration described above.  If you have access to
> electrolyte of a known SG, or to anti-freeze of a known
> freezing point, you should also check that the instrument
> reads accurately somewhere else on the scale after adjusting
> the 'zero' point.
>
> We have several of these that we use in our battery/charger
> testing and have had one that went out of cal such that it
> was inaccurate at high SG despite being accurate at
> 1.000/+32F with distilled water.
>
> To get a nice crisp indication on the scale, it is
> important to keep the sample window clean.  You must
> wipe it dry between samples, and if you notice that the line
> between the light and dark portions of the screen is "fuzzy"
> instead of crisp when taking a reading, then clean the
> sample window and the cover with isopropyl alcohol.
>
> You may also find that the battery in the sample cover has
> died.  You can order a replacement cover (the battery
> is sealed inside it and is non-replacable) from Misco and
> change it yourself if you wish.  The red LED
> illumination really does make the scale easier to read, but
> in a pinch you can get away with just pointing the 7084 at a
> light source while reading it (it may help to remove the
> label from the viewpoint cover to let more ambient light
> through if you need to use it without the battery).
>
> Lastly, I hear that the red-bodied version of these is an
> older model and is less accurate than the newer
> orange-bodied version.  I believe yours would have to
> be several years old if it isn't orange-bodied.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Roger.
>
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I just received my Misco 7084VP.  This thing works great and the LED light battery was still good. This is orders of magnitude better than the autozone piece of crap.  It only takes a small drop of electrolyte to take a reading.  Here's some more info about its operation,
http://www.misco.com/faq.php#traditional
I couldn't find the users manual however.  They said it was at their support site (which is under construction).  Does anybody have the manual in PDF?
Thanks,
Rod

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> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Favorite Battery Hydrometer?
> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[hidden email]>
> Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 1:14 PM
> Roger,
> Thanks for all the great information!
> I bought one from Autozone and it was pretty much useless.
> I figure for $10 I can't go wrong.
> This one has an orange body, so it must be a newer meter.
> Thanks again,
> Rod
>
> --- On Thu, 11/5/09, Roger Stockton <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Roger Stockton <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Favorite Battery Hydrometer?
> > To: "'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'" <[hidden email]>
> > Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 12:49 PM
> > [hidden email]
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I just bought this one "Glycol & battery
> tester
> > misco products 7084VP"
> > > for $10 bucks including shipping, item #
> 190345335169
> > after
> > > getting some info from the list.  hopefully it
> > works?
> >
> > $10 is a steal for this instrument!  Be sure to
> check
> > the calibration by placing a drop of distilled water
> on the
> > measuring window and adjust the screw on the bottom of
> the
> > instrument until the freezing point reads +32F.
> >
> > Misco states that the instrument undergoes a 2 point
> > calibration at the factory, but as far as I can tell
> the
> > only thing you can do in the field is the
> single-point
> > calibration described above.  If you have access to
> > electrolyte of a known SG, or to anti-freeze of a
> known
> > freezing point, you should also check that the
> instrument
> > reads accurately somewhere else on the scale after
> adjusting
> > the 'zero' point.
> >
> > We have several of these that we use in our
> battery/charger
> > testing and have had one that went out of cal such
> that it
> > was inaccurate at high SG despite being accurate at
> > 1.000/+32F with distilled water.
> >
> > To get a nice crisp indication on the scale, it is
> > important to keep the sample window clean.  You must
> > wipe it dry between samples, and if you notice that
> the line
> > between the light and dark portions of the screen is
> "fuzzy"
> > instead of crisp when taking a reading, then clean
> the
> > sample window and the cover with isopropyl alcohol.
> >
> > You may also find that the battery in the sample cover
> has
> > died.  You can order a replacement cover (the
> battery
> > is sealed inside it and is non-replacable) from Misco
> and
> > change it yourself if you wish.  The red LED
> > illumination really does make the scale easier to
> read, but
> > in a pinch you can get away with just pointing the
> 7084 at a
> > light source while reading it (it may help to remove
> the
> > label from the viewpoint cover to let more ambient
> light
> > through if you need to use it without the battery).
> >
> > Lastly, I hear that the red-bodied version of these is
> an
> > older model and is less accurate than the newer
> > orange-bodied version.  I believe yours would have
> to
> > be several years old if it isn't orange-bodied.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Roger.
> >
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Barry Oppenheim

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I've been using by Saturn Vue EV since March and I'd like some input
regarding road noise.  I seem to be getting a lot of road noise emanating
from the rear wheel wells.

When I put the battery box in the cargo bay of the Vue I removed a thin
layer of padding between the body sheet metal and trim.  After putting in
the battery box I covered it with carpet and stuffed carpet padding into the
cavities over the wheel wells.  Although this reduces the noise it does not
eliminate it.  I almost think that my battery box is acting as a giant
amplifier for the road noise from the rear.

Thoughts,

Barry Oppenheim
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- rubber mount battery box (probably too hard to do after installation)
- use soundproofing foam (google search)

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Barry Oppenheim wrote:

> I've been using by Saturn Vue EV since March and I'd like some input
> regarding road noise.  I seem to be getting a lot of road noise emanating
> from the rear wheel wells.
>
> When I put the battery box in the cargo bay of the Vue I removed a thin
> layer of padding between the body sheet metal and trim.  After putting in
> the battery box I covered it with carpet and stuffed carpet padding into the
> cavities over the wheel wells.  Although this reduces the noise it does not
> eliminate it.  I almost think that my battery box is acting as a giant
> amplifier for the road noise from the rear.
>
> Thoughts,
>
> Barry Oppenheim
> New Hope, PA
> www.JustAnotherEVConversion.blogspot.com
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> wrote:

> I've been using by Saturn Vue EV since March and I'd like some input
> regarding road noise.  I seem to be getting a lot of road noise emanating
> from the rear wheel wells.
>
> When I put the battery box in the cargo bay of the Vue I removed a thin
> layer of padding between the body sheet metal and trim.  After putting in
> the battery box I covered it with carpet and stuffed carpet padding into
> the
> cavities over the wheel wells.  Although this reduces the noise it does not
> eliminate it.  I almost think that my battery box is acting as a giant
> amplifier for the road noise from the rear.
>
> Thoughts,
>
> Barry Oppenheim
> New Hope, PA
> www.JustAnotherEVConversion.blogspot.com
>
> =======================EV s are supposed to be quiet ! ================

Barry,
 The noise you describe sounds like it could come from several  sources,

 First, Tire Tread, big across the tire groves make noise (Snow tires make
extra noise...)

Second suspension components are often mounted with "Rubber" bushings but
they only last a few years and may need replacement.

 I know you replaced the springs and shocks but what about the points where
suspension components connect to the frame/body. Especially the front end of
the swing arm and other links that connect to the frame/body. The internal
cushion of the attachment bolts shrink until metal rubs metal then interior
noise increases dramatically.

Thirdly, worn universal joints in rear wheel drive cars, not in your Saturn
View of course.

Hope you find it and it is not too hard to fix.

Regards,

    Dennis Miles,    (Director / CEO)
Electric Vehicle Technical Institute Inc.
Tampa Bay Region, Florida, USA
       Phone (863) 289 - 0690

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