Heli tips?

[Bjørn K Nilssen]

I just got a photo job involving shooting from a helicopter. The job is primarily normal
photos, but of course I want to shoot some panos as well, when I'm up in a heli for the
first time ever :)
I know some of you are doing this, and I also found some info in the archives.

But what would be the biggest problems I'll be facing?
Is the vibration of the heli a problem?
Downdraft from the rotors ?
Would it be OK to have the pilot rotate the heli, and shoot 4 or more fisheye shots?
Would it be better using a (short) pole?
Or just point a CF straight down and stitch with a zenith shot from the ground?

Any tips would be very useful, as I'm quite excited (and nervous too)...

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[jrgen_schrader]

Besides letting the pilot do you what you want ("No, sir, you can't stick anything out there without securing it at least with three ropes ...) vibration and downdraft are the most serious problems. Using a pole is the way to go.

Enjoy and good luck
Jürgen



--- In [hidden email], Bjørn K Nilssen <bk@...> wrote:

>
> I just got a photo job involving shooting from a helicopter. The job is primarily normal
> photos, but of course I want to shoot some panos as well, when I'm up in a heli for the
> first time ever :)
> I know some of you are doing this, and I also found some info in the archives.
>
> But what would be the biggest problems I'll be facing?
> Is the vibration of the heli a problem?
> Downdraft from the rotors ?
> Would it be OK to have the pilot rotate the heli, and shoot 4 or more fisheye shots?
> Would it be better using a (short) pole?
> Or just point a CF straight down and stitch with a zenith shot from the ground?
>
> Any tips would be very useful, as I'm quite excited (and nervous too)...
>
> --
> Bjørn K Nilssen - http://bknilssen.no - panoramas and 3D
>

[Bjørn K Nilssen]

On 27 May 2009 at 10:37, Juergen Schrader wrote:

> Besides letting the pilot do you what you want ("No, sir, you can't stick anything out
> there without securing it at least with three ropes ...) vibration and downdraft are
> the most serious problems. Using a pole is the way to go.

> Enjoy and good luck

Thanks a lot !
And I knew it was something I had forgotten to thnk about - ropes :)

> Jürgen
>
> --- In [hidden email], Bjørn K Nilssen <bk@...> wrote:
> >
> > I just got a photo job involving shooting from a helicopter. The job is primarily normal
> > photos, but of course I want to shoot some panos as well, when I'm up in a heli for the
> > first time ever :)
> > I know some of you are doing this, and I also found some info in the archives.
> >
> > But what would be the biggest problems I'll be facing?
> > Is the vibration of the heli a problem?
> > Downdraft from the rotors ?
> > Would it be OK to have the pilot rotate the heli, and shoot 4 or more fisheye shots?
> > Would it be better using a (short) pole?
> > Or just point a CF straight down and stitch with a zenith shot from the ground?
> >
> > Any tips would be very useful, as I'm quite excited (and nervous too)...

--
Bjørn K Nilssen - http://bknilssen.no - panoramas and 3D

[Eduardo Hutter]

Try to get all the gear you'll need so you wont have to change lenses
during the fly. Dust flying around and lenses flying down can be a
killer combination! An assistant could be a big help too, in case you
have to many things to handle.

Another thing, and this is important, very, very important: relax and
enjoy the ride! :)

Eduardo

* Bjørn K Nilssen wrote, On 27/05/2009 6:55 AM:
>
>
>  I just got a photo job involving shooting from a helicopter. The job
>  is primarily normal photos, but of course I want to shoot some panos
>  as well, when I'm up in a heli for the first time ever :)
>  (...)
>  Any tips would be very useful, as I'm quite excited (and nervous
>  too)...

[AYRTON - avi]

BjornI'm sending in pvt some photos of our equipment and ropes and alll the
stuff to secure camera, poles, BODY, RC, etc ...

best
AYRTON



2009/5/27 Bjørn K Nilssen <[hidden email]>

> On 27 May 2009 at 10:37, Juergen Schrader wrote:
>
> > Besides letting the pilot do you what you want ("No, sir, you can't stick
> anything out
> > there without securing it at least with three ropes ...) vibration and
> downdraft are
> > the most serious problems. Using a pole is the way to go.
>
> > Enjoy and good luck
>
> Thanks a lot !
> And I knew it was something I had forgotten to thnk about - ropes :)
>
> > Jürgen
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], Bjørn K Nilssen <bk@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I just got a photo job involving shooting from a helicopter. The job is
> primarily normal
> > > photos, but of course I want to shoot some panos as well, when I'm up
> in a heli for the
> > > first time ever :)
> > > I know some of you are doing this, and I also found some info in the
> archives.
> > >
> > > But what would be the biggest problems I'll be facing?
> > > Is the vibration of the heli a problem?
> > > Downdraft from the rotors ?
> > > Would it be OK to have the pilot rotate the heli, and shoot 4 or more
> fisheye shots?
> > > Would it be better using a (short) pole?
> > > Or just point a CF straight down and stitch with a zenith shot from the
> ground?
> > >
> > > Any tips would be very useful, as I'm quite excited (and nervous
> too)...
> --
> Bjørn K Nilssen - http://bknilssen.no - panoramas and 3D
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> --
>
>
>
>

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[zen.alien]

Hi

Ayrton, would also be interested to see the equipment, as I will probably have to do this job before the end of the year


Greg



--- In [hidden email], AYRTON <avi@...> wrote:

>
> BjornI'm sending in pvt some photos of our equipment and ropes and alll the
> stuff to secure camera, poles, BODY, RC, etc ...
>
> best
> AYRTON
>
>
>
> 2009/5/27 Bjørn K Nilssen <bk@...>
>
> > On 27 May 2009 at 10:37, Juergen Schrader wrote:
> >
> > > Besides letting the pilot do you what you want ("No, sir, you can't stick
> > anything out
> > > there without securing it at least with three ropes ...) vibration and
> > downdraft are
> > > the most serious problems. Using a pole is the way to go.
> >
> > > Enjoy and good luck
> >
> > Thanks a lot !
> > And I knew it was something I had forgotten to thnk about - ropes :)
> >
> > > Jürgen
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email], Bjørn K Nilssen <bk@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just got a photo job involving shooting from a helicopter. The job is
> > primarily normal
> > > > photos, but of course I want to shoot some panos as well, when I'm up
> > in a heli for the
> > > > first time ever :)
> > > > I know some of you are doing this, and I also found some info in the
> > archives.
> > > >
> > > > But what would be the biggest problems I'll be facing?
> > > > Is the vibration of the heli a problem?
> > > > Downdraft from the rotors ?
> > > > Would it be OK to have the pilot rotate the heli, and shoot 4 or more
> > fisheye shots?
> > > > Would it be better using a (short) pole?
> > > > Or just point a CF straight down and stitch with a zenith shot from the
> > ground?
> > > >
> > > > Any tips would be very useful, as I'm quite excited (and nervous
> > too)...
> > --
> > Bjørn K Nilssen - http://bknilssen.no - panoramas and 3D
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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[Bjørn K Nilssen]

On 27 May 2009 at 15:00, AYRTON wrote:

> BjornI'm sending in pvt some photos of our equipment and ropes and alll the
> stuff to secure camera, poles, BODY, RC, etc ...

Thanks a lot!
Wow, that's a lot of stuff!
Are those harnesses parachutes or part of the heli safety belts?
I'll definitely not climb out of the heli like that! ;)

Looks like the poles are short, but maybe they're telescopic?
Do you shoot 4 around from a horizontal pole?

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[Briar]

Have I missed an update on the next theme? I don't have the time/date it is
to take place. (Of course that could be part of the theme..)

 

Briar Bentley,

Agender Northland.

316 Springfield Road.

R D 8 Whangarei

09-432-2092

0274-904-553

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[AYRTON - avi]

2009/5/27 Bjørn K Nilssen <[hidden email]>

> On 27 May 2009 at 15:00, AYRTON wrote:
>
> > BjornI'm sending in pvt some photos of our equipment and ropes and alll
> the
> > stuff to secure camera, poles, BODY, RC, etc ...
>
> Thanks a lot!
> Wow, that's a lot of stuff!
> Are those harnesses parachutes or part of the heli safety belts?


No I bough it, one for me and one for my partner or my wife to use when we
fly, what is very frequent here in Rio



>
> I'll definitely not climb out of the heli like that! ;)


You did not see it completely  :-)
We go out of it a lot, with our body standing on the skids


>
>
> Looks like the poles are short, but maybe they're telescopic?


yes, they go one to 2,5 meters long and the other to 3,5 meters out of the
helico


>
> Do you shoot 4 around from a horizontal pole?


I shoot lotssss
and later try to use he beter ones because the wind is very strong and shake
a little bit
so is better more than less  :-)


cheers
AYRTON

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[Bjørn K Nilssen]

On 27 May 2009 at 18:44, AYRTON wrote:

> 2009/5/27 Bjørn K Nilssen <[hidden email]>
>
> > On 27 May 2009 at 15:00, AYRTON wrote:
> >
> > > BjornI'm sending in pvt some photos of our equipment and ropes and alll
> > the
> > > stuff to secure camera, poles, BODY, RC, etc ...
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
> > Wow, that's a lot of stuff!
> > Are those harnesses parachutes or part of the heli safety belts?
>
>
> No I bough it, one for me and one for my partner or my wife to use when we
> fly, what is very frequent here in Rio

 
So they are designed for such purposes then?

> > I'll definitely not climb out of the heli like that! ;)
>
>
> You did not see it completely  :-)
> We go out of it a lot, with our body standing on the skids

I guess that willl be next time for me, if I survive... ;)
 
> > Looks like the poles are short, but maybe they're telescopic?
>
>
> yes, they go one to 2,5 meters long and the other to 3,5 meters out of the
> helico
 
> > Do you shoot 4 around from a horizontal pole?
>
>
> I shoot lotssss
> and later try to use he beter ones because the wind is very strong and shake
> a little bit
> so is better more than less  :-)

So you should try to use as fast shutter as possible then, like at least 1/500?

Thanks again!

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[Eduardo Hutter]

Those are used on construction sites, on scafolds, etc.  You can use
climbing equipement like http://www.rei.com/category/4500075 . You can
probably rent it on indoor climbing gymns.

cheers

Eduardo



* Bjørn K Nilssen wrote, On 27/05/2009 8:36 PM:

>
>  So they are designed for such purposes then?
>

[AYRTON - avi]

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Eduardo Hutter
<[hidden email]>wrote:

> Those are used on construction sites, on scafolds, etc.  You can use
> climbing equipement like http://www.rei.com/category/4500075 .



hey THOSE are nice !!!!!!
i want one confortable like that :-)
Mine are not at all pretty or confortable :-(


best
AYRTON

> You can
> probably rent it on indoor climbing gymns.
>
> cheers
>
> Eduardo
>
>
>
> * Bjørn K Nilssen wrote, On 27/05/2009 8:36 PM:
>
> >
> >  So they are designed for such purposes then?
> >
>
>
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[Uri Cogan]

Briar wrote:

> Have I missed an update on the next theme? I don't have the time/date it is
> to take place. (Of course that could be part of the theme..)

The dates for the shoot will be announced on the WWP list (if that's
what you are talking about). Usually it's one or two days on each side
of the solstice (or equinox).

Uri.

[Rafael Ramos-2]

Hi People,

Ayrton, could you send me those pictures of your gear when you shoot aerial
panos ?
I might have to make an aerial pano in the future.


Thanks,

__________________
Rafael Ramos
www.tr2vr.com


On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:08 PM, AYRTON <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Eduardo Hutter
> <[hidden email] <admForum%40brasmontreal.net>>wrote:
>
>
> > Those are used on construction sites, on scafolds, etc. You can use
> > climbing equipement like http://www.rei.com/category/4500075 .
>
> hey THOSE are nice !!!!!!
> i want one confortable like that :-)
> Mine are not at all pretty or confortable :-(
>
> best
> AYRTON
>
>
> > You can
> > probably rent it on indoor climbing gymns.
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Eduardo
> >
> >
> >
> > * Bjørn K Nilssen wrote, On 27/05/2009 8:36 PM:
> >
> > >
> > > So they are designed for such purposes then?
> > >
> >
> >
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