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worldstewards

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Hi there,  Our small team here at Graduate university of Chinese Academy of Science has just discovered that Chinese language does not appear to work in Qwag.  Chinese language webpages display only nonsense characters when viewed in a browser 'opened' in a Qwag forum.  Similarly, entering such characters into a text panel does not work at all.

 

What, if anything, can be done about these problems?  And are there similar problems with using Chinese in Croquet or Cobalt?

 

If anyone can advise us on this matter, I would appreciate it.

 

Eric Sommer, CEO of ChinaDesk and Gucas instructor
kourge

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That sounds like a case of mojibake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojibake).

- kourge

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Eric Sommer <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> Hi there,  Our small team here at Graduate university of Chinese Academy of
> Science has just discovered that Chinese language does not appear to work in
> Qwag.  Chinese language webpages display only nonsense characters when
> viewed in a browser 'opened' in a Qwag forum.  Similarly, entering such
> characters into a text panel does not work at all.
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> What, if anything, can be done about these problems?  And are there similar
> problems with using Chinese in Croquet or Cobalt?
>
>
>
> If anyone can advise us on this matter, I would appreciate it.
>
>
>
> Eric Sommer, CEO of ChinaDesk and Gucas instructor
>
Darius Clarke

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Hi Eric,

I hope we can help. Obviously the Qwaq support staff are the experts, but I think they use VNC connection to a session with Firefox running for its web browser. If that's the case, their server just doesn't have the multilingual add-ons for their Firefox.

The text panel not showing the characters does seem to illustrate a current limitation to Qwaq/Croquet/Cobalt.

However, Yoshiki has added support for the Japanese Kangi character set in Squeak, the original 2D version of Smalltalk which Croquet/Qwaq is bulit on. So, I think migrating that support to Cobalt might take some work, it should be possible.

Others might know more details about this.

Cheers,
Darius

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Eric Sommer <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

Hi there,  Our small team here at Graduate university of Chinese Academy of Science has just discovered that Chinese language does not appear to work in Qwag.  Chinese language webpages display only nonsense characters when viewed in a browser 'opened' in a Qwag forum.  Similarly, entering such characters into a text panel does not work at all.

 

What, if anything, can be done about these problems?  And are there similar problems with using Chinese in Croquet or Cobalt?

 

If anyone can advise us on this matter, I would appreciate it.

 

Eric Sommer, CEO of ChinaDesk and Gucas instructor
huangbo-2

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Hi there,  Our small team here at Graduate university of Chinese Academy of Science has just discovered that Chinese language does not appear to work in Qwag.  Chinese language webpages display only nonsense characters when viewed in a browser 'opened' in a Qwag forum.  Similarly, entering such characters into a text panel does not work at all.

 

What, if anything, can be done about these problems?  And are there similar problems with using Chinese in Croquet or Cobalt?

 

If anyone can advise us on this matter, I would appreciate it.

 

Eric Sommer, CEO of ChinaDesk and Gucas instructor
worldstewards

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Hi there, After viewing your message, I tested on two computer running Engliish and Chinese windows xp respectively.  In both systems the Qwag forum generated only mumbo jumbo on text boards and in in-world browsers when I attempted to use Chinese.  So, if I understood your suggestion correctly, the problem is not mojibake.

 

I will meet with our team this weekend and explore this issue further.  Please advise if you have further input on mojibake.

 

Thanks in advance, Eric

 

 

 



 

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--- On Wed, 7/9/08, kourge <[hidden email]> wrote:
From: kourge <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [croquet-user] How can Chinese be used in Croquet/Cobalt/Qwag
To: [hidden email], "Eric Sommer" <[hidden email]>
Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 10:06 AM

That sounds like a case of mojibake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojibake).

- kourge

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Eric Sommer <[hidden email]>
wrote:
>
>
> Hi there,  Our small team here at Graduate university of Chinese Academy
of
> Science has just discovered that Chinese language does not appear to work
in
> Qwag.  Chinese language webpages display only nonsense characters when
> viewed in a browser 'opened' in a Qwag forum.  Similarly, entering
such
> characters into a text panel does not work at all.
>
>
>
> What, if anything, can be done about these problems?  And are there
similar
> problems with using Chinese in Croquet or Cobalt?
>
>
>
> If anyone can advise us on this matter, I would appreciate it.
>
>
>
> Eric Sommer, CEO of ChinaDesk and Gucas instructor
>
worldstewards

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Hi there, I will meet with our small initial team to explore the Chinese language- croquet compatibility issue this weekend.  We are considering launching a larger formal China-side effort to contribute to Croquet and development of Croquet applications.  And, of course, language compatibility issues are of paramount importance.  Any additional information you or others can provide on this matter would be *greatly* appreciated!

 

All the best from Beijing, Eric


 

Hi Eric,

I hope we can help. Obviously the Qwaq support staff are the experts, but I think they use VNC connection to a session with Firefox running for its web browser. If that's the case, their server just doesn't have the multilingual add-ons for their Firefox.

The text panel not showing the characters does seem to illustrate a current limitation to Qwaq/Croquet/Cobalt.

However, Yoshiki has added support for the Japanese Kangi character set in Squeak, the original 2D version of Smalltalk which Croquet/Qwaq is bulit on. So, I think migrating that support to Cobalt might take some work, it should be possible.

Others might know more details about this.

Cheers,
Darius

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Eric Sommer <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

Hi there,  Our small team here at Graduate university of Chinese Academy of Science has just discovered that Chinese language does not appear to work in Qwag.  Chinese language webpages display only nonsense characters when viewed in a browser 'opened' in a Qwag forum.  Similarly, entering such characters into a text panel does not work at all.

 

What, if anything, can be done about these problems?  And are there similar problems with using Chinese in Croquet or Cobalt?

 

If anyone can advise us on this matter, I would appreciate it.

 

Eric Sommer, CEO of ChinaDesk and Gucas instructor
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