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Hello Forum,

Inspired by the commercial project of Thomas Demolliens and his production of a tour of the Champs Elysee this morning the idea popped up to create a PanoCycle concept.

The concept is based on my old Batavus bicycle, a piece of aluminium tube, size 2000x30x3mm, an aluminium strip (top), a iron strip (bottom), some bolts, a selfmade U clamp, and some pvc tape.
On top of the aluminium tube a Seitz VR Drive + NodalNinja R10 ring (zero degree tilt) + EOS 5D + shaved Tokina 10-17@12mm is mounted.
The drive is controlled by a wired remote controller that is attached to the tube with velcron tape.

http://www.dmmdh.nl/panos/panocycle/panocycle_setup_02072009/image_001.html
Short URL: http://tinyurl.com/lyapnu

Under perfect summer conditions I shot 51 panos (4 images around) over a distance of less then 1.5 km in 52 minutes so each pano took approx. 1 minute for shooting and cycling.
Images are shot in JPEG with a customized camera setup for sharpness, contrast, etc.
To remove the CA and fringing all images are later batch processed with an ACR Photoshop droplet.

I manually created a EasyStitch (*) template for PTGUi with one of the panos and based on this template I created 51 batch templates with PTGui Batch Builder and created all panos with PTGui Batch Stitcher.
(*) When using a precise lens calibrated template that is fine tuned for pitch and roll of the images and by setting this template to only optimize for the lens params d and e and image params y, r, p (for all except the first image) and by enabling automatic setting of CP's and optimizing new projekts (settings in the Projekt Settings tab), batch stitching is very, very easy, hence my name "EasyStitch" for this method ;-)

The output of PTGui is batch processed in Pano2VR, the output is downsized from equirectangulars of 6800x3400px (**) to 1500px cube face size to get fullscreen panos of less then 2 mb.
(**) The panos created by PTGui are smaller then the max possiible size of approx. 8400x4200 px to enhance processing speed.
The panos are embedded in HTML files that links all panos (use arrows to jump to the next/previous pano or use the number links).

http://www.dmmdh.nl/panos/panocycle/panocycle_first_test_02072009/image_001.html
Short URL: http://tinyurl.com/mywrcg

As you can see the navigation is not really suited for such a large number of panos, there should be a controller inside the flash panos with a slider, a map and hotspots but making such a controller and embedding all stuff into a flash project is outside the scope of the concept.
Keep in mind that from the first idea to the finishing of the production all took less then 12 hours and except for the making of the device, the cycling, the fine tuning of the PTGui template and the creation of the Pano2VR projekt file all is done fully automatically.

For me this was a fun projekt, for commercial purposes the workflow and method is not suited but I hope it inspire you to do your own crazy summer thing ;-)

Best,
Wim
Will Brown

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Really terrific Wim. Maybe the next time you are in Paris...
Best wishes,
Will
On Jul 2, 2009, at 4:43 PM, Wim Koornneef wrote:

>
>
>
> Hello Forum,
>
> Inspired by the commercial project of Thomas Demolliens and his  
> production
> of a tour of the Champs Elysee this morning the idea popped up to  
> create a
> PanoCycle concept.
>
> The concept is based on my old Batavus bicycle, a piece of aluminium  
> tube,
> size 2000x30x3mm, an aluminium strip (top), a iron strip (bottom),  
> some
> bolts, a selfmade U clamp, and some pvc tape.
> On top of the aluminium tube a Seitz VR Drive + NodalNinja R10 ring  
> (zero
> degree tilt) + EOS 5D + shaved Tokina 10-17@12mm is mounted.
> The drive is controlled by a wired remote controller that is  
> attached to the
> tube with velcron tape.
>
> http://www.dmmdh.nl/panos/panocycle/panocycle_setup_02072009/image_001.html
> Short URL: http://tinyurl.com/lyapnu
>
> Under perfect summer conditions I shot 51 panos (4 images around)  
> over a
> distance of less then 1.5 km in 52 minutes so each pano took approx. 1
> minute for shooting and cycling.
> Images are shot in JPEG with a customized camera setup for sharpness,
> contrast, etc.
> To remove the CA and fringing all images are later batch processed  
> with an
> ACR Photoshop droplet.
>
> I manually created a EasyStitch (*) template for PTGUi with one of  
> the panos
> and based on this template I created 51 batch templates with PTGui  
> Batch
> Builder and created all panos with PTGui Batch Stitcher.
> (*) When using a precise lens calibrated template that is fine tuned  
> for
> pitch and roll of the images and by setting this template to only  
> optimize
> for the lens params d and e and image params y, r, p (for all except  
> the
> first image) and by enabling automatic setting of CP's and  
> optimizing new
> projekts (settings in the Projekt Settings tab), batch stitching is  
> very,
> very easy, hence my name "EasyStitch" for this method ;-)
>
> The output of PTGui is batch processed in Pano2VR, the output is  
> downsized
> from equirectangulars of 6800x3400px (**) to 1500px cube face size  
> to get
> fullscreen panos of less then 2 mb.
> (**) The panos created by PTGui are smaller then the max possiible  
> size of
> approx. 8400x4200 px to enhance processing speed.
> The panos are embedded in HTML files that links all panos (use  
> arrows to
> jump to the next/previous pano or use the number links).
>
> http://www.dmmdh.nl/panos/panocycle/panocycle_first_test_02072009/image_001.html
> Short URL: http://tinyurl.com/mywrcg
>
> As you can see the navigation is not really suited for such a large  
> number
> of panos, there should be a controller inside the flash panos with a  
> slider,
> a map and hotspots but making such a controller and embedding all  
> stuff into
> a flash project is outside the scope of the concept.
> Keep in mind that from the first idea until the finishing of the  
> production
> all took less then 12 hours and except for the making of the device,  
> the
> cycling, the fine tuning of the PTGui template and the creation of the
> Pano2VR projekt file all is done fully automatically.
>
> For me this was a fun projekt, for commercial purposes the workflow  
> and
> method is not suited but I hope it inspire you to do your own crazy  
> summer
> thing ;-)
>
> Best,
> Wim
> --
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/PanoCycle-concept-tp24313472p24313472.html
> Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>



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bigwade

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Well Wim,
after I came to myself again, HAHA, I took a big beer.
If you are going to this, with this setting, in Paris I will join you !!!!!!!!
grtz
Frank
AYRTON - avi

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On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Wim Koornneef <[hidden email]>wrote:

>
> Hello Forum,
>
> Inspired by the commercial project of Thomas Demolliens and his production
> of a tour of the Champs Elysee this morning the idea popped up to create a
> PanoCycle concept.
>
> The concept is based on my old Batavus bicycle, a piece of aluminium tube,
> size 2000x30x3mm, an aluminium strip (top), a iron strip (bottom), some
> bolts, a selfmade U clamp, and some pvc tape.
> On top of the aluminium tube a Seitz VR Drive + NodalNinja R10 ring (zero
> degree tilt) + EOS 5D + shaved Tokina 10-17@12mm is mounted.



Win
PLEASE
how did you use a ring for the tokina ???
Nodal Ninja don't sell one for this lens !?!?!

Please I NEED one too !!!  :-)

Any infos I 'll thank you

BTW: Nice idea for the bike  :-)

Thanks
best regards
AYRTON



>
> The drive is controlled by a wired remote controller that is attached to
> the
> tube with velcron tape.
>
> http://www.dmmdh.nl/panos/panocycle/panocycle_setup_02072009/image_001.html
> Short URL: http://tinyurl.com/lyapnu
>
> Under perfect summer conditions I shot 51 panos (4 images around) over a
> distance of less then 1.5 km in 52 minutes so each pano took approx. 1
> minute for shooting and cycling.
> Images are shot in JPEG with a customized camera setup for sharpness,
> contrast, etc.
> To remove the CA and fringing all images are later batch processed with an
> ACR Photoshop droplet.
>
> I manually created a EasyStitch (*) template for PTGUi with one of the
> panos
> and based on this template I created 51 batch templates with PTGui Batch
> Builder and created all panos with PTGui Batch Stitcher.
> (*) When using a precise lens calibrated template that is fine tuned for
> pitch and roll of the images and by setting this template to only optimize
> for the lens params d and e and image params y, r, p (for all except the
> first image) and by enabling automatic setting of CP's and optimizing new
> projekts (settings in the Projekt Settings tab), batch stitching is very,
> very easy, hence my name "EasyStitch" for this method ;-)
>
> The output of PTGui is batch processed in Pano2VR, the output is downsized
> from equirectangulars of 6800x3400px (**) to 1500px cube face size to get
> fullscreen panos of less then 2 mb.
> (**) The panos created by PTGui are smaller then the max possiible size of
> approx. 8400x4200 px to enhance processing speed.
> The panos are embedded in HTML files that links all panos (use arrows to
> jump to the next/previous pano or use the number links).
>
>
> http://www.dmmdh.nl/panos/panocycle/panocycle_first_test_02072009/image_001.html
> Short URL: http://tinyurl.com/mywrcg
>
> As you can see the navigation is not really suited for such a large number
> of panos, there should be a controller inside the flash panos with a
> slider,
> a map and hotspots but making such a controller and embedding all stuff
> into
> a flash project is outside the scope of the concept.
> Keep in mind that from the first idea until the finishing of the production
> all took less then 12 hours and except for the making of the device, the
> cycling, the fine tuning of the PTGui template and the creation of the
> Pano2VR projekt file all is done fully automatically.
>
> For me this was a fun projekt, for commercial purposes the workflow and
> method is not suited but I hope it inspire you to do your own crazy summer
> thing ;-)
>
> Best,
> Wim
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/PanoCycle-concept-tp24313472p24313472.html
> Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> --
>
>
>
>


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Wim Koornneef

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Hello AYRTON,

The R10 ring for the Tokina lens is a Beta model.

If I am right then Nodal Ninja will soon release the final model, perhaps Nick Fan can give you some additional info about the expected release date.

You will not regret the waiting time for the release of the Tokina ring as the R10 (and so is the R1) is a well designed and versatile ring for use on slim rotator like the Nodal Ninja R-D4 and for use without the rotator on a pole or monopod, for this purpose the ring has a 3/8" socket.
Especially the option to position the lens forwards out of NPP is great for shooting on a pole, it can make the footprint less then 5 degree and so the need for an extra patch shot is in a lot of situations gone because a footprint of such a small size can be very easily edited without a patch shot in Photoshop.

BTW, I deliberately shot the PanoCycle tour with the lens in NPP because I wanted to avoid the need of manual alignment and optimizing of the images.

Wim


AYRTON - avi wrote:
Win
PLEASE
how did you use a ring for the tokina ???
Nodal Ninja don't sell one for this lens !?!?!

Please I NEED one too !!!  :-)

Any infos I 'll thank you

BTW: Nice idea for the bike  :-)

Thanks
best regards
AYRTON
Thomas Demolliens

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Hi All

Despite all the critics received in this mailing list I'm glad that my
commercial attempt inspired some of you. Well done Wim for your
PanoCycle concept. The Seitz VR drive is a nite piece of equipment but
unfortunately it could'nt do the job in Paris when being in the crowd
(too slow as people moving). I tried it out with my D300 and my Sunex
Superfisheye that can produce full spherical panos in 3 shots, but I had
too many ghosting errors, reason why I finally used the Roundshot D3.

Anyhow good luck for your project and please don't hesitate to ask any
information related to my experience in Paris.

Cheers,
Thomas


--- In [hidden email], Wim Koornneef <wim.koornneef@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Hello Forum,
>
> Inspired by the commercial project of Thomas Demolliens and his
production
> of a tour of the Champs Elysee this morning the idea popped up to
create a
> PanoCycle concept.
>
> The concept is based on my old Batavus bicycle, a piece of aluminium
tube,
> size 2000x30x3mm, an aluminium strip (top), a iron strip (bottom),
some
> bolts, a selfmade U clamp, and some pvc tape.
> On top of the aluminium tube a Seitz VR Drive + NodalNinja R10 ring
(zero
> degree tilt) + EOS 5D + shaved Tokina 10-17@12mm is mounted.
> The drive is controlled by a wired remote controller that is attached
to the
> tube with velcron tape.
>
>
http://www.dmmdh.nl/panos/panocycle/panocycle_setup_02072009/image_001.h\
tml
> Short URL: http://tinyurl.com/lyapnu
>
> Under perfect summer conditions I shot 51 panos (4 images around) over
a
> distance of less then 1.5 km in 52 minutes so each pano took approx. 1
> minute for shooting and cycling.
> Images are shot in JPEG with a customized camera setup for sharpness,
> contrast, etc.
> To remove the CA and fringing all images are later batch processed
with an
> ACR Photoshop droplet.
>
> I manually created a EasyStitch (*) template for PTGUi with one of the
panos
> and based on this template I created 51 batch templates with PTGui
Batch
> Builder and created all panos with PTGui Batch Stitcher.
> (*) When using a precise lens calibrated template that is fine tuned
for
> pitch and roll of the images and by setting this template to only
optimize
> for the lens params d and e and image params y, r, p (for all except
the
> first image) and by enabling automatic setting of CP's and optimizing
new
> projekts (settings in the Projekt Settings tab), batch stitching is
very,
> very easy, hence my name "EasyStitch" for this method ;-)
>
> The output of PTGui is batch processed in Pano2VR, the output is
downsized
> from equirectangulars of 6800x3400px (**) to 1500px cube face size to
get
> fullscreen panos of less then 2 mb.
> (**) The panos created by PTGui are smaller then the max possiible
size of
> approx. 8400x4200 px to enhance processing speed.
> The panos are embedded in HTML files that links all panos (use arrows
to
> jump to the next/previous pano or use the number links).
>
>
http://www.dmmdh.nl/panos/panocycle/panocycle_first_test_02072009/image_\
001.html
> Short URL: http://tinyurl.com/mywrcg
>
> As you can see the navigation is not really suited for such a large
number
> of panos, there should be a controller inside the flash panos with a
slider,
> a map and hotspots but making such a controller and embedding all
stuff into
> a flash project is outside the scope of the concept.
> Keep in mind that from the first idea until the finishing of the
production
> all took less then 12 hours and except for the making of the device,
the
> cycling, the fine tuning of the PTGui template and the creation of the
> Pano2VR projekt file all is done fully automatically.
>
> For me this was a fun projekt, for commercial purposes the workflow
and
> method is not suited but I hope it inspire you to do your own crazy
summer
> thing ;-)
>
> Best,
> Wim
> --
> View this message in context:
http://www.nabble.com/PanoCycle-concept-tp24313472p24313472.html
> Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>


AYRTON - avi

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On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Wim Koornneef <[hidden email]>wrote:

>
> Hello AYRTON,
>
> The R10 ring for the Tokina lens is a Beta model.
>
> If I am right then Nodal Ninja will soon release the final model, perhaps
> Nick Fan can give you some additional info about the expected release date.


Hey, this is new for me
I'm the South America Dealer for Nodal Ninja,
and I didn't know there was already a ßeta model  :-)

I'll talk to Bill

Thankssssssss

BTW: your bike is great and fun to go around  :-)

best wishes
AYRTON



>
>
> You will not regret the waiting time for the release of the Tokina ring as
> the R10 (and so is the R1) is a well designed and versatile ring for use on
> slim rotator like the Nodal Ninja R-D4 and for use without the rotator on a
> pole or monopod, for this purpose the ring has a 3/8" socket.
> Especially the option to position the lens forwards out of NPP is great for
> shooting on a pole, it can make the footprint less then 5 degree and so the
> need for an extra patch shot is in a lot of situations gone because a
> footprint of such a small size can be very easily edited without a patch
> shot in Photoshop.
>
> BTW, I deliberately shot the PanoCycle tour with the lens in NPP because I
> wanted to avoid the need of manual alignment and optimizing of the images.
>
> Wim
>
>
>
> AYRTON - avi wrote:
> >
> > Win
> > PLEASE
> > how did you use a ring for the tokina ???
> > Nodal Ninja don't sell one for this lens !?!?!
> >
> > Please I NEED one too !!!  :-)
> >
> > Any infos I 'll thank you
> >
> > BTW: Nice idea for the bike  :-)
> >
> > Thanks
> > best regards
> > AYRTON
> >
> >
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/PanoCycle-concept-tp24313472p24317992.html
> Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> --
>
>
>
>


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