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[Alexandre Bergel]

Dear List,

I just downloaded the last version of Pier. I immediately bumped into  
a number of issues:
        - how to remove the developer bar ("new session, configure, ...")? I  
tried to click on configure and then set Deployment Mode to true, but  
the bar still remains
        - is there a way to change http://localhost:8080/seaside/pier into http://localhost:8080/ 
   (i.e., removing 'seaside/pier'?
        - there is 'pier:' in the title. How to remove it? I tried Edit  
Design and edit on different environment and pages, but I could not  
find it. Maybe it should be removed by default.
       
Cheers,
Alexandre

NB: The description given in the 'about' tab is useful. By the way, is  
_Environment acts as templates, why not having _Template instead?
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[Damien Cassou-3]

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Alexandre Bergel<[hidden email]> wrote:
>        - there is 'pier:' in the title. How to remove it? I tried Edit
> Design and edit on different environment and pages, but I could not find it.
> Maybe it should be removed by default.

http://www.piercms.com/doc/faq#197706197

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[Mariano Martinez Peck]

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dear List,

I just downloaded the last version of Pier. I immediately bumped into a number of issues:
       - how to remove the developer bar ("new session, configure, ...")? I tried to click on configure and then set Deployment Mode to true, but the bar still remains

mmmm I tried and it's true: halos are not removed. Perhaps a bug?
 

       - is there a way to change http://localhost:8080/seaside/pier into http://localhost:8080/  (i.e., removing 'seaside/pier'?
       - there is 'pier:' in the title. How to remove it? I tried Edit Design and edit on different environment and pages, but I could not find it. Maybe it should be removed by default.
       
Cheers,
Alexandre

NB: The description given in the 'about' tab is useful. By the way, is _Environment acts as templates, why not having _Template instead?
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[John McKeon-2]

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dear List,

I just downloaded the last version of Pier. I immediately bumped into a number of issues:
       - how to remove the developer bar ("new session, configure, ...")? I tried to click on configure and then set Deployment Mode to true, but the bar still remains

remove the WAStandardFilesLibrary via the seaside config page
 

       - is there a way to change http://localhost:8080/seaside/pier into http://localhost:8080/  (i.e., removing 'seaside/pier'?

Set the default entry point on the main seaside page.
 

       - there is 'pier:' in the title. How to remove it? I tried Edit Design and edit on different environment and pages, but I could not find it. Maybe it should be removed by default.

       
Cheers,
Alexandre

NB: The description given in the 'about' tab is useful. By the way, is _Environment acts as templates, why not having _Template instead?
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[Lukas Renggli]

>        - how to remove the developer bar ("new session, configure, ...")? I
> tried to click on configure and then set Deployment Mode to true, but the
> bar still remains

Click on "New Session", it only disappears in new sessions.

Lukas

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[stéphane ducasse-2]

dont forget to update the faq :)

On Jul 20, 2009, at 5:07 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:

> Dear List,
>
> I just downloaded the last version of Pier. I immediately bumped  
> into a number of issues:
> - how to remove the developer bar ("new session, configure, ...")?  
> I tried to click on configure and then set Deployment Mode to true,  
> but the bar still remains
> - is there a way to change http://localhost:8080/seaside/pier into http://localhost:8080/ 
>   (i.e., removing 'seaside/pier'?
> - there is 'pier:' in the title. How to remove it? I tried Edit  
> Design and edit on different environment and pages, but I could not  
> find it. Maybe it should be removed by default.
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
> NB: The description given in the 'about' tab is useful. By the way,  
> is _Environment acts as templates, why not having _Template instead?
> --
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[Maarten Mostert]

Hi,

I got quite à lot of things running, so I am sort of ready for deployement.

I got Apache 2.2 up, and all seems to work fine except for the CCS files
who don't come true.

Anyone idears ?

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[Damien Cassou-3]

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Maarten
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> I got Apache 2.2 up, and all seems to work fine except for the CCS files who
> don't come true.

What is CCS?

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[Maarten Mostert]

By CCS I meant all the style sheets.

For the moment I only see non formatted text.

Regards,

@+Maarten,

> Message du 21/07/09 10:36

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>
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Maarten
> Mostert wrote:
> > I got Apache 2.2 up, and all seems to work fine except for the CCS files who
> > don't come true.
>
> What is CCS?
>
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[Damien Cassou-3]

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Maarten
MOSTERT<[hidden email]> wrote:
> By CCS I meant all the style sheets.

CSS then I guess :-)

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[Alexandre Bergel]

> dont forget to update the faq :)

How can I do this ?

Alexandre

>
> On Jul 20, 2009, at 5:07 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>
>> Dear List,
>>
>> I just downloaded the last version of Pier. I immediately bumped  
>> into a number of issues:
>> - how to remove the developer bar ("new session, configure, ...")?  
>> I tried to click on configure and then set Deployment Mode to true,  
>> but the bar still remains
>> - is there a way to change http://localhost:8080/seaside/pier into http://localhost:8080/ 
>>   (i.e., removing 'seaside/pier'?
>> - there is 'pier:' in the title. How to remove it? I tried Edit  
>> Design and edit on different environment and pages, but I could not  
>> find it. Maybe it should be removed by default.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
>>
>> NB: The description given in the 'about' tab is useful. By the way,  
>> is _Environment acts as templates, why not having _Template instead?
>> --
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[Alexandre Bergel]

>        - is there a way to change http://localhost:8080/seaside/pier 
> into http://localhost:8080/  (i.e., removing 'seaside/pier'?
>
> Set the default entry point on the main seaside page.


No idea how to do this.  I removed the Seaside tool bar already, is it  
already too late?

Alexandre
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[Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez]

El mar, 21-07-2009 a las 14:21 -0400, Alexandre Bergel escribió:

> >        - is there a way to change http://localhost:8080/seaside/pier 
> > into http://localhost:8080/  (i.e., removing 'seaside/pier'?
> >
> > Set the default entry point on the main seaside page.
>
>
> No idea how to do this.  I removed the Seaside tool bar already, is it  
> already too late?
>
> Alexandre

You can use:

"Para cambiar el prefijo /seaside/"
WADispatcher default setName: 'seaside'.

"El nombre de la aplicacion que respondera por default"
WADispatcher default defaultName: ''.

But I think that is better to let the webserver to handle the proxy to
port 8080 and path seaside (first configuration). The second
configuration it is ok if you only have an app in your image.

Miguel Cobá

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[John McKeon-2]

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

      - is there a way to change http://localhost:8080/seaside/pier into http://localhost:8080/  (i.e., removing 'seaside/pier'?

Set the default entry point on the main seaside page.

No idea how to do this.

My bad. This is available on the config page  /seaside/config
 

 I removed the Seaside tool bar already, is it already too late?

No

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[Alexandre Bergel]

>       - is there a way to change http://localhost:8080/seaside/pier 
> into http://localhost:8080/  (i.e., removing 'seaside/pier'?
>
> Set the default entry point on the main seaside page.
>> No idea how to do this.
>
> My bad. This is available on the config page  /seaside/config

I do not see where and how to do this.
I go to http://localhost:8080/seaside/config
then I click on configure 'pier'.

In the server part, there are three field input:
        1 - Resource Base Url
        2 - Server Hostname
        3 - Server Path

I am struggling to make the website accessible from http://localhost:8080 
  simply (in order to have it on seasidehosting.st)
Is this possible?

Alexandre
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[John McKeon-2]

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

     - is there a way to change http://localhost:8080/seaside/pier into http://localhost:8080/  (i.e., removing 'seaside/pier'?

Set the default entry point on the main seaside page.

No idea how to do this.

My bad. This is available on the config page  /seaside/config

I do not see where and how to do this.
I go to http://localhost:8080/seaside/config
then I click on configure 'pier'.

No, on the main config page (NOT pier's config page) below the list of available entry points is the settings section. Use the drop down box labelled "Default Entry Point" to select the default entry point :)

In the server part, there are three field input:
       1 - Resource Base Url
       2 - Server Hostname
       3 - Server Path

I am struggling to make the website accessible from http://localhost:8080 simply (in order to have it on seasidehosting.st)
Is this possible?

 

Absolutely. See the FAQ

I dont want to be the bearer of bad news but IF you are using a Pharo image it will not run on seasidehosting.st

John
 

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[Alexandre Bergel]

> No, on the main config page (NOT pier's config page) below the list  
> of available entry points is the settings section. Use the drop down  
> box labelled "Default Entry Point" to select the default entry  
> point :)

Good start, I can now access pier from http://localhost:8080/seaside
A bit better would be to remove 'seaside'. Again, no idea how. I read  
the FAQ and so on.

> In the server part, there are three field input:
>        1 - Resource Base Url
>        2 - Server Hostname
>        3 - Server Path
>
> I am struggling to make the website accessible from http://localhost:8080 
>  simply (in order to have it on seasidehosting.st)
> Is this possible?
>
> Absolutely. See the FAQ

I lost the habit of reading manual and faq.

> I dont want to be the bearer of bad news but IF you are using a  
> Pharo image it will not run on seasidehosting.st

Waaaaaa!!! How to loose hours to configuring hoping to make it work...
Thanks,

Cheers,
Alexandre
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[John McKeon-2]

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

No, on the main config page (NOT pier's config page) below the list of available entry points is the settings section. Use the drop down box labelled "Default Entry Point" to select the default entry point :)

Good start, I can now access pier from http://localhost:8080/seaside
A bit better would be to remove 'seaside'. Again, no idea how. I read the FAQ and so on.

In the server part, there are three field input:
      1 - Resource Base Url
      2 - Server Hostname
      3 - Server Path

I am struggling to make the website accessible from http://localhost:8080 simply (in order to have it on seasidehosting.st)
Is this possible?

Absolutely. See the FAQ

I lost the habit of reading manual and faq.

I dont want to be the bearer of bad news but IF you are using a Pharo image it will not run on seasidehosting.st

Waaaaaa!!! How to loose hours to configuring hoping to make it work...
Thanks,

Cheers,

Alexandre

Use Miguel's excellent advice

WADispatcher default setName: ''
I have no idea if setting the default entry point to '' is dangerous/has side effects but it seemed to work OK

Cheers
John

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but alex this is a well-known fact :)

>> No, on the main config page (NOT pier's config page) below the list  
>> of available entry points is the settings section. Use the drop  
>> down box labelled "Default Entry Point" to select the default entry  
>> point :)
>
> Good start, I can now access pier from http://localhost:8080/seaside
> A bit better would be to remove 'seaside'. Again, no idea how. I  
> read the FAQ and so on.
>
>> In the server part, there are three field input:
>>       1 - Resource Base Url
>>       2 - Server Hostname
>>       3 - Server Path
>>
>> I am struggling to make the website accessible from http://localhost:8080 
>>  simply (in order to have it on seasidehosting.st)
>> Is this possible?
>>
>> Absolutely. See the FAQ
>
> I lost the habit of reading manual and faq.
>
>> I dont want to be the bearer of bad news but IF you are using a  
>> Pharo image it will not run on seasidehosting.st
>
> Waaaaaa!!! How to loose hours to configuring hoping to make it work...
> Thanks,
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
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[Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez]

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:04 AM, John McKeon<[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>>>
>>> No, on the main config page (NOT pier's config page) below the list of
>>> available entry points is the settings section. Use the drop down box
>>> labelled "Default Entry Point" to select the default entry point :)
>>
>> Good start, I can now access pier from http://localhost:8080/seaside
>> A bit better would be to remove 'seaside'. Again, no idea how. I read the
>> FAQ and so on.
>>
>>> In the server part, there are three field input:
>>>       1 - Resource Base Url
>>>       2 - Server Hostname
>>>       3 - Server Path
>>>
>>> I am struggling to make the website accessible from
>>> http://localhost:8080 simply (in order to have it on seasidehosting.st)
>>> Is this possible?
>>>
>>> Absolutely. See the FAQ
>>
>> I lost the habit of reading manual and faq.
>>
>>> I dont want to be the bearer of bad news but IF you are using a Pharo
>>> image it will not run on seasidehosting.st
>>
>> Waaaaaa!!! How to loose hours to configuring hoping to make it work...
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
>
> Use Miguel's excellent advice
>
> WADispatcher default setName: ''
> I have no idea if setting the default entry point to '' is dangerous/has
> side effects but it seemed to work OK
>

It is not dangerous but it limits you.
For example, you can't use apache/lighttpd to do a proxy/rewrite by
relying on a prefix on the url and have static content at the same
time. This means that the images manages *everything* dynamic code and
static content that is not optimal.
By using /seaside/something and letting the webserver to proxy
everything that begins with /seaside to the squeak/pharo image and
every else (css files, images, pdf, etc) to be served directly by the
web server it is a better architecture.

But if your app handles everything in the image, this configuration
doesn't harm.

Miguel Cobá

> Cheers
> John
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