Registering TroiFile on Windows FM server

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I purchased the TroiFile server license, installed in the correct location,
created the TroiPay.txt file and put it in the correct folder per
instructions.
I restarted the fmserver and the machine.
On the FM Server Admin, it shows the correct TroiFile version now and it is
enabled.

On a FM client I deleted the TroiFile plugin, restatred FMPro; I opened a
hosted database and ran a script to check the registration that I wrote
before.
The Troi functions are missing.
What did I miss?

John Funk
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John,

When using server versions of various plug-ins, the server will handle the
scripting server side.  However, to develop and maintain the scripts through
a client machine, one will also need a copy of the plug-in (client version)
on the client machine.  When you open a served file on a client, you can
only use script steps from plug-ins actually installed on your client
machine.  Most of the plug-ins with server versions are sold with the server
version and a client copy with which to develop.

Harvey Sherman
Deputy-in-Charge
Public Integrity Assurance Section
Voice:  (213) 893-1284

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On
Behalf Of John Funk
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 6:55 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Plug-list] Registering TroiFile on Windows FM server

I purchased the TroiFile server license, installed in the correct location,
created the TroiPay.txt file and put it in the correct folder per
instructions.
I restarted the fmserver and the machine.
On the FM Server Admin, it shows the correct TroiFile version now and it is
enabled.

On a FM client I deleted the TroiFile plugin, restatred FMPro; I opened a
hosted database and ran a script to check the registration that I wrote
before.
The Troi functions are missing.
What did I miss?

John Funk
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Thanks for the explanation. I may have some confusion here.
So do I need a client plugin on all the PCs that I want to run the scripts
that have Troi Functions? I thought the server version eliminated this?
I do not get it.
John


On 9/9/09 9:58 AM, "Sherman, Harvey" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> John,
>
> When using server versions of various plug-ins, the server will handle the
> scripting server side.  However, to develop and maintain the scripts through
> a client machine, one will also need a copy of the plug-in (client version)
> on the client machine.  When you open a served file on a client, you can
> only use script steps from plug-ins actually installed on your client
> machine.  Most of the plug-ins with server versions are sold with the server
> version and a client copy with which to develop.
>
> Harvey Sherman
> Deputy-in-Charge
> Public Integrity Assurance Section
> Voice:  (213) 893-1284
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On
> Behalf Of John Funk
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 6:55 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Plug-list] Registering TroiFile on Windows FM server
>
> I purchased the TroiFile server license, installed in the correct location,
> created the TroiPay.txt file and put it in the correct folder per
> instructions.
> I restarted the fmserver and the machine.
> On the FM Server Admin, it shows the correct TroiFile version now and it is
> enabled.
>
> On a FM client I deleted the TroiFile plugin, restatred FMPro; I opened a
> hosted database and ran a script to check the registration that I wrote
> before.
> The Troi functions are missing.
> What did I miss?
>
> John Funk
> Critical Solution
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
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The server side plug-in handles the manipulation of files on the server by
use of server side scripts.  So let's say you have a script that renames
files based on some standard method.  You can create a script that will find
the files in a directory, move them to another directory, and rename them
based on RecordIDs.  This could all happen on the server machine based on a
server side script.

Without the plug-in on the development client, you would not be able to
write the script.  If you plan to use TroiFile to manipulate files on the
client machine, you would need the client plug-in on the client machine.

My understanding of what the server plug-in does is that it allows the
server to manage the files on the server machine.  The server side plug-in
does not eliminate the need for the client plug-in if the client machines
have a need to manipulate files locally.  Server cannot manipulate the files
on a client machine and vice versa.

The big question is "what task are you trying to accomplish and on what
machine?"  If you are getting FTP dumps of files on a regular basis and need
the server to manage them, then the server side plug-in will help immensely
to manage the naming and location on the server.  (Still need a client copy
to develop the scripts).  If you are trying to get the files manipulated on
individual client machines, you will need client-side plug-ins.

Harvey Sherman
Deputy-in-Charge
Public Integrity Assurance Section
Voice:  (213) 893-1284

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On
Behalf Of John Funk
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:20 AM
To: FileMaker Plug-in list
Subject: Re: [Plug-list] Registering TroiFile on Windows FM server

Thanks for the explanation. I may have some confusion here.
So do I need a client plugin on all the PCs that I want to run the scripts
that have Troi Functions? I thought the server version eliminated this?
I do not get it.
John


On 9/9/09 9:58 AM, "Sherman, Harvey" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> John,
>
> When using server versions of various plug-ins, the server will handle the
> scripting server side.  However, to develop and maintain the scripts
through
> a client machine, one will also need a copy of the plug-in (client
version)
> on the client machine.  When you open a served file on a client, you can
> only use script steps from plug-ins actually installed on your client
> machine.  Most of the plug-ins with server versions are sold with the
server

> version and a client copy with which to develop.
>
> Harvey Sherman
> Deputy-in-Charge
> Public Integrity Assurance Section
> Voice:  (213) 893-1284
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On
> Behalf Of John Funk
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 6:55 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Plug-list] Registering TroiFile on Windows FM server
>
> I purchased the TroiFile server license, installed in the correct
location,
> created the TroiPay.txt file and put it in the correct folder per
> instructions.
> I restarted the fmserver and the machine.
> On the FM Server Admin, it shows the correct TroiFile version now and it
is

> enabled.
>
> On a FM client I deleted the TroiFile plugin, restatred FMPro; I opened a
> hosted database and ran a script to check the registration that I wrote
> before.
> The Troi functions are missing.
> What did I miss?
>
> John Funk
> Critical Solution
> _______________________________________________
> The Troi plug-list mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://mail.troi.com/mailman/listinfo/plug-list_troi.com
>
>
>
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Thanks again,
I have a script that was developed on a local PC. The script moves files
based a field contents. The server AND the client are on the same "file
server" something like \\server\folder\ so the file move call is exactly the
same from both machines.

I need to trigger the move from a local PC (a button), so from what you are
saying I think I wasted my money getting the server version correct?

John


On 9/9/09 11:08 AM, "Sherman, Harvey" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> what task are you trying to accomplish and on what
> machine?"



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John,

I have no opinion about whether or not you wasted your money.  I am a big
fan of server-side plug-ins because all of my FM10 solutions are published
via IWP.  I can leverage my server for IWP triggered e-mails with SMTPit Pro
and I can upload documents directly to the server with SuperContainer.  I
have used TroiFile and TroiActivator for years on client and robot machines.
I have not looked at TroiFile for server mostly because I have no current
need.

I can imagine some real heavy lifting being done by TroiFile on the
server-side if files are being transmitted via FTP in large quantities on a
regular basis.  Of it the server is the repository and the users need to
make sure that the files they are submitted get into the appropriate folder
locations.

Harvey Sherman
Deputy-in-Charge
Public Integrity Assurance Section
Voice:  (213) 893-1284


-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On
Behalf Of John Funk
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 10:00 AM
To: FileMaker Plug-in list
Subject: Re: [Plug-list] Registering TroiFile on Windows FM server

Thanks again,
I have a script that was developed on a local PC. The script moves files
based a field contents. The server AND the client are on the same "file
server" something like \\server\folder\ so the file move call is exactly the
same from both machines.

I need to trigger the move from a local PC (a button), so from what you are
saying I think I wasted my money getting the server version correct?

John


On 9/9/09 11:08 AM, "Sherman, Harvey" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> what task are you trying to accomplish and on what
> machine?"



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Thanks,
Your input is greatly appreciated.
John


On 9/9/09 12:56 PM, "Sherman, Harvey" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> John,
>
> I have no opinion about whether or not you wasted your money.  I am a big
> fan of server-side plug-ins because all of my FM10 solutions are published
> via IWP.  I can leverage my server for IWP triggered e-mails with SMTPit Pro
> and I can upload documents directly to the server with SuperContainer.  I
> have used TroiFile and TroiActivator for years on client and robot machines.
> I have not looked at TroiFile for server mostly because I have no current
> need.
>
> I can imagine some real heavy lifting being done by TroiFile on the
> server-side if files are being transmitted via FTP in large quantities on a
> regular basis.  Of it the server is the repository and the users need to
> make sure that the files they are submitted get into the appropriate folder
> locations.
>
> Harvey Sherman
> Deputy-in-Charge
> Public Integrity Assurance Section
> Voice:  (213) 893-1284
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On
> Behalf Of John Funk
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 10:00 AM
> To: FileMaker Plug-in list
> Subject: Re: [Plug-list] Registering TroiFile on Windows FM server
>
> Thanks again,
> I have a script that was developed on a local PC. The script moves files
> based a field contents. The server AND the client are on the same "file
> server" something like \\server\folder\ so the file move call is exactly the
> same from both machines.
>
> I need to trigger the move from a local PC (a button), so from what you are
> saying I think I wasted my money getting the server version correct?
>
> John
>
>
> On 9/9/09 11:08 AM, "Sherman, Harvey" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> what task are you trying to accomplish and on what
>> machine?"
>
>
>
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Hi John,

A bit late in picking this up, but if you email us off-list we can
sort this out. We can always change the license for you, if you
bought the wrong license.
Glad to help you.

Thanks!

Peter

At 13:15 -0500 09-09-09, John Funk wrote:
>Thanks,
>Your input is greatly appreciated.
>John
>

>On 9/9/09 12:56 PM, "Sherman, Harvey" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>  John,
>>
>>  I have no opinion about whether or not you wasted your money.  I am a big
>>  fan of server-side plug-ins because all of my FM10 solutions are published
>>  via IWP.  I can leverage my server for IWP triggered e-mails with SMTPit Pro
>>  and I can upload documents directly to the server with SuperContainer.  I
>>  have used TroiFile and TroiActivator for years on client and robot machines.
>>  I have not looked at TroiFile for server mostly because I have no current
>>  need.
>>
>>  I can imagine some real heavy lifting being done by TroiFile on the
>>  server-side if files are being transmitted via FTP in large quantities on a
>>  regular basis.  Of it the server is the repository and the users need to
>>  make sure that the files they are submitted get into the appropriate folder
>>  locations.
>>
>>  Harvey Sherman
>>  Deputy-in-Charge
>>  Public Integrity Assurance Section
>>  Voice:  (213) 893-1284
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On
>>  Behalf Of John Funk
>>  Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 10:00 AM
>>  To: FileMaker Plug-in list
>>  Subject: Re: [Plug-list] Registering TroiFile on Windows FM server
>>
>>  Thanks again,
>>  I have a script that was developed on a local PC. The script moves files
>>  based a field contents. The server AND the client are on the same "file
>>  server" something like \\server\folder\ so the file move call is exactly the
>>  same from both machines.
>>
>>  I need to trigger the move from a local PC (a button), so from what you are
>>  saying I think I wasted my money getting the server version correct?
>>
>>  John
>>
>>
>>  On 9/9/09 11:08 AM, "Sherman, Harvey" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>>  what task are you trying to accomplish and on what
>>>  machine?"
>>
>>
>>
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