Revolution Media 4.x and Revolution Player 3.x

[Dom-2]

As a former user of Revolution Media 3.x, I used Revolution Player to
run stacks without launching the development environment...

I am wondering if I still can use the old Revolution Player (3.x) to run
stacks created with the new Revolution Media 4.x?


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[Jan Schenkel]

With revMedia 4.0 being free, why would we still need a Player?
The whole idea of giving revMedia away for free, is to let everyone share in the fun - running stacks, deploying them in webpages and letting others take them apart without the ability to password-protect your scripts.
Don't panic, revStudio and revEnterprise can still password-protect scripts and these stacks will work just fine in revMedia. But revMedia is about sharing with the rest of the world, and getting more people to try out the revPlatform for themselves.

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--- On Thu, 11/5/09, Dom <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Dom <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Revolution Media 4.x and Revolution Player 3.x
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 10:38 AM
> As a former user of Revolution Media
> 3.x, I used Revolution Player to
> run stacks without launching the development
> environment...
>
> I am wondering if I still can use the old Revolution Player
> (3.x) to run
> stacks created with the new Revolution Media 4.x?
>
>
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[Richmond Mathewson-2]

Jan Schenkel wrote:
> With revMedia 4.0 being free, why would we still need a Player?
> The whole idea of giving revMedia away for free, is to let everyone share in the fun - running stacks, deploying them in webpages and letting others take them apart without the ability to password-protect your scripts.
> Don't panic, revStudio and revEnterprise can still password-protect scripts and these stacks will work just fine in revMedia. But revMedia is about sharing with the rest of the world, and getting more people to try out the revPlatform for themselves.
>
>  
I can think of one reason why one might want a Player:

Imagine a cash-strapped teacher designing a stack with revMedia;

they might think it a bit too much to expect students to go through
the whole jingbang of registering for revMedia, downloading it
and installing it a bit of a clunky way to deliver a "quick-n-dirty"
educational "media-bite".

this might also be applied in situations where there are a number of
students with computers who do not have internet access (this, oddly
enough, is always overlooked when these arguments come up).

A Player/Runner + stack will have less of a footprint than revMedia
+ stack

As an advocate of equipping the under-privileged in this world with
old computers I believe that a Player/Runner is essential; especially
one that will run stacks on forms of Linux.

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To personalise this I would like to point out that, while I own
Rev Studio 4 it does not work on my Pentium 3s running Ubuntu 5.10;
nor does revMedia 4.

I have yet to find out how standalones made with 4 'do' on these computers;

It may well be that they are just too RAM-hungry to function;

a Player/Runner might solve this problem.
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[Dom-2]

Jan Schenkel <[hidden email]> wrote:

> With revMedia 4.0 being free, why would we still need a Player?

Agreed -- but with a caveat:
you talk of persons who are computer-litterate...

Think about a person, scared with computers, to which you give a
stack... and ?
a whole development package??

Or a classroom, as Richmond says!

Maybe, also, the question is beginning to go obsolete -- who, nowadays,
still gives stacks to other persons? on a disc*, perhaps?

A bunch of years ago, I put some HyperCard (and MetaCard) stacks on the
web, along with a "Player" or StackRunner (before the epoch where an
official one was available)

It seems to that RunRev is going to evolve to the net -- and it's good
:-)
Sure, with a revlet immediately available on the net, there is no need
for a Player ;-)

* Apple recently clarified the difference between a "disc" and a "disk"
;-)


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[Jan Schenkel]

--- On Thu, 11/12/09, Dom <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Jan Schenkel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > With revMedia 4.0 being free, why would we still need
> a Player?
>
> Agreed -- but with a caveat:
> you talk of persons who are computer-litterate...
>
> Think about a person, scared with computers, to which you
> give a
> stack... and ?
> a whole development package??
>
> Or a classroom, as Richmond says!
>
> Maybe, also, the question is beginning to go obsolete --
> who, nowadays,
> still gives stacks to other persons? on a disc*, perhaps?
>
> A bunch of years ago, I put some HyperCard (and MetaCard)
> stacks on the
> web, along with a "Player" or StackRunner (before the epoch
> where an
> official one was available)
>
> It seems to that RunRev is going to evolve to the net --
> and it's good
> :-)
> Sure, with a revlet immediately available on the net, there
> is no need
> for a Player ;-)
>
> * Apple recently clarified the difference between a "disc"
> and a "disk"
> ;-)
>

While I agree with you in priciple thata a pure player environment is safest for computer users without technical knowledge, revMedia is not that different from the original HyperCard setup. I don't think double-clicking or going to the File menu to Open a stack, is that difficult to grasp.
Now for deployment, a revlet is fine in an internet-connected world - and you can even send people a zip archive with an html page and a revlet that they can run offline, as long as the have the revWeb plugin. And you can still buy revStudio/revEnterprise if you want to build standalone applications.

Jan Schenkel
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[Luis-24]

Hiya,

The Player makes distribution easier, as in there not being a need to  
download and install revMedia in order to see the stacks: Slaps the  
stacks onto a USB stick with the Player and can show it off to anyone  
without having to get them to 'have to' install revMedia.

Cheers,

Luis.


On 12 Nov 2009, at 20:32, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

> Jan Schenkel wrote:
>> With revMedia 4.0 being free, why would we still need a Player?
>> The whole idea of giving revMedia away for free, is to let  
>> everyone share in the fun - running stacks, deploying them in  
>> webpages and letting others take them apart without the ability to  
>> password-protect your scripts.
>> Don't panic, revStudio and revEnterprise can still password-
>> protect scripts and these stacks will work just fine in revMedia.  
>> But revMedia is about sharing with the rest of the world, and  
>> getting more people to try out the revPlatform for themselves.
>>
>>
> I can think of one reason why one might want a Player:
>
> Imagine a cash-strapped teacher designing a stack with revMedia;
>
> they might think it a bit too much to expect students to go through
> the whole jingbang of registering for revMedia, downloading it
> and installing it a bit of a clunky way to deliver a "quick-n-dirty"
> educational "media-bite".
>
> this might also be applied in situations where there are a number of
> students with computers who do not have internet access (this, oddly
> enough, is always overlooked when these arguments come up).
>
> A Player/Runner + stack will have less of a footprint than revMedia
> + stack
>
> As an advocate of equipping the under-privileged in this world with
> old computers I believe that a Player/Runner is essential; especially
> one that will run stacks on forms of Linux.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------------
> To personalise this I would like to point out that, while I own
> Rev Studio 4 it does not work on my Pentium 3s running Ubuntu 5.10;
> nor does revMedia 4.
>
> I have yet to find out how standalones made with 4 'do' on these  
> computers;
>
> It may well be that they are just too RAM-hungry to function;
>
> a Player/Runner might solve this problem.
> _______________________________________________
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