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Ed Bullock

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Hi all

I am working on a conference centre database.
They would like to be able to enter in how many tables will be in a
conference room, how may seats per table then choose from the registered
users as to who is sitting where.

So for example
Event: FileMaker Conference
Number of Tables: 10
Seats per table: 8

How would you go about structuring this? Could I get a layout showing all
tables with the correct number of seats so the user could just use a drop
down showing the registered users so the user selects who is at what seat.
It would be even better if once a user had been allocated a seat they were
removed form the value list.

The question may seem quite vague but I don't where to start on this right
from the structure of it so not quite sure the correct question to ask.
I guess I am just asking how you would go about this. What tables would you
create, would you use portals to show the different tables etc.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Many thanks
Ed


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Agi Riley

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Try to find John Sindelar's airplane seating demo, if you can.

Agnes Riley
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On Oct 18, 2009, at 11:45 AM, "Ed Bullock"  
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I am working on a conference centre database.
> They would like to be able to enter in how many tables will be in a
> conference room, how may seats per table then choose from the  
> registered
> users as to who is sitting where.
>
> So for example
> Event: FileMaker Conference
> Number of Tables: 10
> Seats per table: 8
>
> How would you go about structuring this? Could I get a layout  
> showing all
> tables with the correct number of seats so the user could just use a  
> drop
> down showing the registered users so the user selects who is at what  
> seat.
> It would be even better if once a user had been allocated a seat  
> they were
> removed form the value list.
>
> The question may seem quite vague but I don't where to start on this  
> right
> from the structure of it so not quite sure the correct question to  
> ask.
> I guess I am just asking how you would go about this. What tables  
> would you
> create, would you use portals to show the different tables etc.
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Many thanks
> Ed
>
>
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Ed Bullock

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Hi Agnes,

Thank you for your reply. I was not able to locate this demo file but while
searching for it I did find reference to a demo file by Excelisys of a drag
and drop technique which is very impressive and I can probably use in my
solution. I have downloaded this demo and it works very well.

I can envisage how this will work by dragging names and dropping them onto a
table but I do have 1 issue.

This technique uses a mix of portals, relationships, script triggers and
container fields.

If I knew how many tables there were and how many seats at each table then
this would be fairly straight forward... but I don't.

The user should be able to select how many tables are in a room and how many
seats at each table.

I can obviously not setup the correct number of portals, relationships,
container fields etc before I know how many portals will be needed (1 per
table)

In effect I need this part of the database to build itself once the user has
selected the options but I cannot see this being possible.

Does anyone have any bright ideas?

Many thanks
Ed

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Riley
Sent: 18 October 2009 18:15
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Subject: Re: Seating Plan

Try to find John Sindelar's airplane seating demo, if you can.

Agnes Riley
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 18, 2009, at 11:45 AM, "Ed Bullock"  
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I am working on a conference centre database.
> They would like to be able to enter in how many tables will be in a
> conference room, how may seats per table then choose from the  
> registered
> users as to who is sitting where.
>
> So for example
> Event: FileMaker Conference
> Number of Tables: 10
> Seats per table: 8
>
> How would you go about structuring this? Could I get a layout  
> showing all
> tables with the correct number of seats so the user could just use a  
> drop
> down showing the registered users so the user selects who is at what  
> seat.
> It would be even better if once a user had been allocated a seat  
> they were
> removed form the value list.
>
> The question may seem quite vague but I don't where to start on this  
> right
> from the structure of it so not quite sure the correct question to  
> ask.
> I guess I am just asking how you would go about this. What tables  
> would you
> create, would you use portals to show the different tables etc.
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Many thanks
> Ed
>
>
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Drew Tenenholz

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Ed --

Please share the URL for the partial solution you did find.  If
someone can turn up the John Sindelar's URL, I hope they think to
post it here.

-- Drew Tenenholz

>Hi Agnes,
>
>Thank you for your reply. I was not able to locate this demo file but while
>searching for it I did find reference to a demo file by Excelisys of a drag
>and drop technique which is very impressive and I can probably use in my
>solution. I have downloaded this demo and it works very well.

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Ed Bullock

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http://www.excelisys.com/web/downloads/index.php

2nd example down, Drag & Drop example

This is really good if you know how many portals you want to be able to drag
and drop between

Also a very good example on that page of re-sorting a portal - i.e. moving
portal rows up and down

Regards
Ed

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Tenenholz
Sent: 19 October 2009 14:56
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Subject: Re: Seating Plan

Ed --

Please share the URL for the partial solution you did find.  If
someone can turn up the John Sindelar's URL, I hope they think to
post it here.

-- Drew Tenenholz

>Hi Agnes,
>
>Thank you for your reply. I was not able to locate this demo file but while
>searching for it I did find reference to a demo file by Excelisys of a drag
>and drop technique which is very impressive and I can probably use in my
>solution. I have downloaded this demo and it works very well.

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Agi Riley

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Hi Ed,

FileMaker cannot create portals on the fly, so yes you'd need a  
certain amount of information before building your solution. It is not  
any different, however from building a house: you need to know how  
many flights and rooms you're gonna have. :-)

I'll see if I can get my hands on John's airplane seating: it might  
even be on my devcon CD.


Agnes Riley
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On Oct 19, 2009, at 6:57 AM, "Ed Bullock"  
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Agnes,
>
> Thank you for your reply. I was not able to locate this demo file  
> but while
> searching for it I did find reference to a demo file by Excelisys of  
> a drag
> and drop technique which is very impressive and I can probably use  
> in my
> solution. I have downloaded this demo and it works very well.
>
> I can envisage how this will work by dragging names and dropping  
> them onto a
> table but I do have 1 issue.
>
> This technique uses a mix of portals, relationships, script triggers  
> and
> container fields.
>
> If I knew how many tables there were and how many seats at each  
> table then
> this would be fairly straight forward... but I don't.
>
> The user should be able to select how many tables are in a room and  
> how many
> seats at each table.
>
> I can obviously not setup the correct number of portals,  
> relationships,
> container fields etc before I know how many portals will be needed  
> (1 per
> table)
>
> In effect I need this part of the database to build itself once the  
> user has
> selected the options but I cannot see this being possible.
>
> Does anyone have any bright ideas?
>
> Many thanks
> Ed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: FileMaker Talk [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of  
> Agi
> Riley
> Sent: 18 October 2009 18:15
> To: FileMaker Talk
> Subject: Re: Seating Plan
>
> Try to find John Sindelar's airplane seating demo, if you can.
>
> Agnes Riley
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 18, 2009, at 11:45 AM, "Ed Bullock"
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I am working on a conference centre database.
>> They would like to be able to enter in how many tables will be in a
>> conference room, how may seats per table then choose from the
>> registered
>> users as to who is sitting where.
>>
>> So for example
>> Event: FileMaker Conference
>> Number of Tables: 10
>> Seats per table: 8
>>
>> How would you go about structuring this? Could I get a layout
>> showing all
>> tables with the correct number of seats so the user could just use a
>> drop
>> down showing the registered users so the user selects who is at what
>> seat.
>> It would be even better if once a user had been allocated a seat
>> they were
>> removed form the value list.
>>
>> The question may seem quite vague but I don't where to start on this
>> right
>> from the structure of it so not quite sure the correct question to
>> ask.
>> I guess I am just asking how you would go about this. What tables
>> would you
>> create, would you use portals to show the different tables etc.
>>
>> Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>> Many thanks
>> Ed
>>
>>
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Michael Gilman

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Ed,

I haven't put too much thought in to this but, what about using a hierarchy
template instead of portals? The upper level would be the event then each
table underneath the event and then the seating arrangement for each table?
Michael Gilman

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http://www.excelisys.com/web/downloads/index.php

2nd example down, Drag & Drop example

This is really good if you know how many portals you want to be able to drag
and drop between

Also a very good example on that page of re-sorting a portal - i.e. moving
portal rows up and down

Regards
Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: FileMaker Talk [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Drew
Tenenholz
Sent: 19 October 2009 14:56
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Subject: Re: Seating Plan

Ed --

Please share the URL for the partial solution you did find.  If
someone can turn up the John Sindelar's URL, I hope they think to
post it here.

-- Drew Tenenholz

>Hi Agnes,
>
>Thank you for your reply. I was not able to locate this demo file but while
>searching for it I did find reference to a demo file by Excelisys of a drag
>and drop technique which is very impressive and I can probably use in my
>solution. I have downloaded this demo and it works very well.

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Ross Dickson

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Ed
You could create a table called Seats. Then, once you have entered the
number of Tables and the number of Seats in a table of Preferences, you
can have a script create a series of Tables*Seats records, one for each
seat at each table, and each containing the table's ID and the seat's ID.

The names can be entered from a drop down list as desired.

To have a drop down list of names, you create a table of Names, and  a
value list, AllNames, of all the names in the table.

To restrict this value list to those names not already placed:
  - create in Names, a text field, Placed,
  - create in Seats, a global text field, gNo, containing "No",
  - create a table occurrence, seats_NAMES_NotPlaced, relating the
fields gNo in Seats and Placed in Names,
  - create a value list, NamesNotPlaced, using values from Name in the
table occurrence, seats_NAMES_NotPlaced, and including only related
values starting from Seats.
  - format the field Name in the list layout of Seats to display as a
drop-down list values from NamesNotPlaced.
  - also format this field to trigger, OnObjectModify, a script which
sets the field, Names::Placed for the name selected to "Yes".

Let me know if you would like to see the scripts or my demo file.

Ross



Ed Bullock wrote:

> Hi Agnes,
>
> Thank you for your reply. I was not able to locate this demo file but while
> searching for it I did find reference to a demo file by Excelisys of a drag
> and drop technique which is very impressive and I can probably use in my
> solution. I have downloaded this demo and it works very well.
>
> I can envisage how this will work by dragging names and dropping them onto a
> table but I do have 1 issue.
>
> This technique uses a mix of portals, relationships, script triggers and
> container fields.
>
> If I knew how many tables there were and how many seats at each table then
> this would be fairly straight forward... but I don't.
>
> The user should be able to select how many tables are in a room and how many
> seats at each table.
>
> I can obviously not setup the correct number of portals, relationships,
> container fields etc before I know how many portals will be needed (1 per
> table)
>
> In effect I need this part of the database to build itself once the user has
> selected the options but I cannot see this being possible.
>
> Does anyone have any bright ideas?
>
> Many thanks
> Ed

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