earth to Carel Struycken

[Jeffrey Martin | 360Cities.net]

I was trying to write to our tallest of panoramic friends but his
pixeltornado address bounced.

If anyone has another email address for him, could you let me know off-list
please?

thanks,
Jeffrey


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeffrey Martin | 360Cities.net]

dreamhost is NOT suitable for "mission critical" stuff. this much i am
absolutely certain. (shared hosting i mean. $400 / month dedicated server
should be fine!)

for other stuff it's great.

they give you ~4tb a month of transfer, which you'll *never* get. no way.
disk space is real though, i have 500gb, and it goes up every week!

anyway $20 / month you'll never get a better deal.  however when you're
going to go meet the Queen, make sure you've got a failover :) because it
*will* go down then.

and yes, if you need 24/7 uptime, just get 2 cheap webhosts, it should be
ok...




--
=========================
Jeffrey Martin
www.360cities.net - The World in Virtual Reality
Terronska 49, 160 00 Prague 6, Czech Republic
4 Main St, Suite 60a, Los Altos CA 94022, USA

tel. [phone] / skype jeffrey.s.martin

www.prague360.com / www.vrlog.net / www.jeffrey-martin.com


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[bohonus]

--- In [hidden email], "Jeffrey Martin" <360cities@...> wrote:
>
> dreamhost is NOT suitable for "mission critical" stuff. this much i am
> absolutely certain. (shared hosting i mean. $400 / month dedicated server
> should be fine!)

Well of course, if it is "mission critical" you wouldn't be advised to use shared hosting at all
regardless of who it was with no?

>
> for other stuff it's great.
>
> they give you ~4tb a month of transfer, which you'll *never* get. no way.


But I think it would be more of a challenge to get that many people to a VR related web
site to begin with in order to require that much bandwidth! :)


> disk space is real though, i have 500gb, and it goes up every week!

Yes, I like this part especially. I have more disk space than I will ever know what to do with
after so many years. They also have the "files forever" thing, which I haven't taken
advantage of yet.

[Carel]

Jeffrey Martin-3 wrote:

I was trying to write to our tallest of panoramic friends but his
pixeltornado address bounced.

If anyone has another email address for him, could you let me know off-list
please?

thanks,
Jeffrey

One of my hosts - iPowerWeb - has "upgraded" me to a new "console", which has caused some major problems with my email. I am now in the process of moving my websites to Bluehost, which has functioned flawlessly and also does not put me on hold for 50 minutes when I call support.
The email does come through, in spite of the error message it sends to the sender. It will take me a while to unravel the rats' nest of various email forwards that are embedded in my various websites.

Carel Struycken

[Robert Fisher-5]

I have the same issues with ipower. How is Bluehost? I have a lot of  
accts with iPower and need to move them to somewhere else, the tech  
support wait is ridiculous.

On Jan 22, 2008, at 9:37 AM, Carel wrote:

>
> One of my hosts - iPowerWeb - has "upgraded" me to a new "console",  
> which
> has caused some major problems with my email. I am now in the  
> process of
> moving my websites to Bluehost, which has functioned flawlessly and  
> also
> does not put me on hold for 50 minutes when I call support.
> The email does come through, in spite of the error message it sends  
> to the
> sender. It will take me a while to unravel the rats' nest of  
> various email
> forwards that are embedded in my various websites.
>
> Carel Struycken
> --
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/earth-to-Carel- 
> Struycken-tp15022301p15023992.html
> Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>

Cheers
Robert C. Fisher
VR Photography/Cinematography

[Peter Sale]

At one time I too had my many domains and hosting with iPower. Sadly they had no tools for "managing" a large number of domains, and
the wait time attempting to get their tech support on the phone was a big time waster. I moved my 80+ domains over to GoDaddy, and I
use just one of their hosting plans for all of my real estate slideshow sites, for example, www.3019third.com, www.2115third.com,
www.1027ashland.com, www.2620twentyfourth.com,  et. al.  They are great, they answer the phone in 2-5 minutes most of the time,
their domain management tools are great, and they are very inexpensive for both hosting and domain registration.

_
Best Regards,
Peter Sale
Santa Monica CA USA

-
On Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:19 AM, Robert C. Fisher wrote:

> I have the same issues with ipower. How is Bluehost? I have a lot of
> accts with iPower and need to move them to somewhere else, the tech
> support wait is ridiculous.  
>
> On Jan 22, 2008, at 9:37 AM, Carel wrote:
>>
>> One of my hosts - iPowerWeb - has "upgraded" me to a new "console",
>> which has caused some major problems with my email. I am now in the
>> process of moving my websites to Bluehost, which has functioned
>> flawlessly and also does not put me on hold for 50 minutes when I
>> call support. The email does come through, in spite of the error
>> message it sends to the sender. It will take me a while to unravel
>> the rats' nest of various email forwards that are embedded in my
>> various websites.
>>
>> Carel Struycken
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/earth-to-Carel-
>> Struycken-tp15022301p15023992.html
>> Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>
> Cheers
> Robert C. Fisher
> VR Photography/Cinematography

[Robert Fisher-5]

I already register most of my domains through Godaddy so I really  
don't want to do my webhosting there. Also they seem a bit  
underpowered for my use. Bluehost looks better and I also have accts  
with DreamHost which is great but a little expensive but great  
bandwidth and server speed. At one point I had all of my sites with  
iPower but never again, I need to spread my business out among  
several hosts unless I can get a private server, but that won't  
happen until I get a huge client.

On Jan 22, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Peter Sale wrote:

> At one time I too had my many domains and hosting with iPower.  
> Sadly they had no tools for "managing" a large number of domains, and
> the wait time attempting to get their tech support on the phone was  
> a big time waster. I moved my 80+ domains over to GoDaddy, and I
> use just one of their hosting plans for all of my real estate  
> slideshow sites, for example, www.3019third.com, www.2115third.com,
> www.1027ashland.com, www.2620twentyfourth.com, et. al. They are  
> great, they answer the phone in 2-5 minutes most of the time,
> their domain management tools are great, and they are very  
> inexpensive for both hosting and domain registration.
>
> _
> Best Regards,
> Peter Sale
> Santa Monica CA USA
>

Cheers
Robert C. Fisher
VR Photography/Cinematography

[bohonus]

For what it's worth-

I have had all of my sites (including VRSeattle.com) with Dreamhost for over 10 years now
(pretty much since they started).

-b



--- In [hidden email], "Robert C. Fisher" <bob@...> wrote:

>
> I already register most of my domains through Godaddy so I really  
> don't want to do my webhosting there. Also they seem a bit  
> underpowered for my use. Bluehost looks better and I also have accts  
> with DreamHost which is great but a little expensive but great  
> bandwidth and server speed. At one point I had all of my sites with  
> iPower but never again, I need to spread my business out among  
> several hosts unless I can get a private server, but that won't  
> happen until I get a huge client.
>
> On Jan 22, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Peter Sale wrote:
>
> > At one time I too had my many domains and hosting with iPower.  
> > Sadly they had no tools for "managing" a large number of domains, and
> > the wait time attempting to get their tech support on the phone was  
> > a big time waster. I moved my 80+ domains over to GoDaddy, and I
> > use just one of their hosting plans for all of my real estate  
> > slideshow sites, for example, www.3019third.com, www.2115third.com,
> > www.1027ashland.com, www.2620twentyfourth.com, et. al. They are  
> > great, they answer the phone in 2-5 minutes most of the time,
> > their domain management tools are great, and they are very  
> > inexpensive for both hosting and domain registration.
> >
> > _
> > Best Regards,
> > Peter Sale
> > Santa Monica CA USA
> >
>
> Cheers
> Robert C. Fisher
> VR Photography/Cinematography
>

[Peter Sale]

1. I do not understand why, if you register most of your domains through GoDaddy, you do not wish to also purchase hosting from
them? What is the connection between domain registration and hosting?

2. Will I see better download performance with my slideshows and/or my VR images (www.petersVRProperties.com, if I host with
Bluehost or DreamHost?

3. Can you please list one or more of your sites that is hosted on either BlueHost or DreamHost so that I can "see" what you're
referring to? Will a site visitor "see" the difference?

_
Best Regards,
Peter Sale

-
On Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:49 AM, Robert C. Fisher wrote:

> I already register most of my domains through Godaddy so I really
> don't want to do my webhosting there. Also they seem a bit
> underpowered for my use. Bluehost looks better and I also have accts
> with DreamHost which is great but a little expensive but great
> bandwidth and server speed. At one point I had all of my sites with
> iPower but never again, I need to spread my business out among
> several hosts unless I can get a private server, but that won't
> happen until I get a huge client.      
>
> On Jan 22, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Peter Sale wrote:
>
>> At one time I too had my many domains and hosting with iPower.
>> Sadly they had no tools for "managing" a large number of domains, and
>> the wait time attempting to get their tech support on the phone was a
>> big time waster. I moved my 80+ domains over to GoDaddy, and I use
>> just one of their hosting plans for all of my real estate slideshow
>> sites, for example, www.3019third.com, www.2115third.com,
>> www.1027ashland.com, www.2620twentyfourth.com, et. al. They are
>> great, they answer the phone in 2-5 minutes most of the time, their
>> domain management tools are great, and they are very inexpensive for
>> both hosting and domain registration.
>>
>> _
>> Best Regards,
>> Peter Sale
>> Santa Monica CA USA
>>
>
> Cheers
> Robert C. Fisher
> VR Photography/Cinematography

[aiwetir-2]

bluehost has a %5 limit on 'multimedia' files which is well hidden in their TOS.  i haven't
thoroughly looked at your site carel, but i'm assuming that you have a lot of movies on it.  
you may have trouble with them because of this.  i have a few friends who use dreamhost
with no issues.  you could also consider fastdomain.com which is the same company as
bluehost, but i haven't been able to find the 5% limit anywhere in their TOS.

with shared hosting, it's a crap shoot anyway, you could get on a good box or on a bad one.

cheers,
mmm  

[AYRTON - avi]

On 1/22/08, Peter Sale <[hidden email]> wrote:
> 1. I do not understand why, if you register most of your domains through GoDaddy, you do not wish to also purchase hosting from
> them? What is the connection between domain registration and hosting?

Me too.
I have around 20 domains all regitered with GoDaddy
but none
hosting with them :-)


>
> 2. Will I see better download performance with my slideshows and/or my VR images (www.petersVRProperties.com, if I host with
> Bluehost or DreamHost?

Dreamhost has a much better speed and stable connection


>
> 3. Can you please list one or more of your sites that is hosted on either BlueHost or DreamHost so that I can "see" what you're
> referring to? Will a site visitor "see" the difference?

Yes because when you have something hot, that a lot of people are
trying to "see" at the same time, making lots of downloads, the better
the server, the beeter the "experience" for the visitors !

AYRTON
ayrton.com/360

>
> _
> Best Regards,
> Peter Sale
>
> -
> On Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:49 AM, Robert C. Fisher wrote:
>
> > I already register most of my domains through Godaddy so I really
> > don't want to do my webhosting there. Also they seem a bit
> > underpowered for my use. Bluehost looks better and I also have accts
> > with DreamHost which is great but a little expensive but great
> > bandwidth and server speed. At one point I had all of my sites with
> > iPower but never again, I need to spread my business out among
> > several hosts unless I can get a private server, but that won't
> > happen until I get a huge client.
> >
> > On Jan 22, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Peter Sale wrote:
> >
> >> At one time I too had my many domains and hosting with iPower.
> >> Sadly they had no tools for "managing" a large number of domains, and
> >> the wait time attempting to get their tech support on the phone was a
> >> big time waster. I moved my 80+ domains over to GoDaddy, and I use
> >> just one of their hosting plans for all of my real estate slideshow
> >> sites, for example, www.3019third.com, www.2115third.com,
> >> www.1027ashland.com, www.2620twentyfourth.com, et. al. They are
> >> great, they answer the phone in 2-5 minutes most of the time, their
> >> domain management tools are great, and they are very inexpensive for
> >> both hosting and domain registration.
> >>
> >> _
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Peter Sale
> >> Santa Monica CA USA
> >>
> >
> > Cheers
> > Robert C. Fisher
> > VR Photography/Cinematography
>

   A  Y  R  T  O  N
 (55-21) 9982.6313

 www.rio360.com.br
   www.vrfolio.com
   www.ayrton.com
    rio.360cities.net

[AYRTON - avi]

On 1/22/08, Peter Sale <[hidden email]> wrote:
> 1. I do not understand why, if you register most of your domains through GoDaddy, you do not wish to also purchase hosting from
> them? What is the connection between domain registration and hosting?

Me too.
I have around 20 domains all regitered with GoDaddy
but none
hosting with them :-)


>
> 2. Will I see better download performance with my slideshows and/or my VR images (www.petersVRProperties.com, if I host with
> Bluehost or DreamHost?

Dreamhost has a much better speed and stable connection


>
> 3. Can you please list one or more of your sites that is hosted on either BlueHost or DreamHost so that I can "see" what you're
> referring to? Will a site visitor "see" the difference?

Yes because when you have something hot, that a lot of people are
trying to "see" at the same time, making lots of downloads, the better
the server, the beeter the "experience" for the visitors !

AYRTON
ayrton.com/360

>
> _
> Best Regards,
> Peter Sale
>
> -
> On Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:49 AM, Robert C. Fisher wrote:
>
> > I already register most of my domains through Godaddy so I really
> > don't want to do my webhosting there. Also they seem a bit
> > underpowered for my use. Bluehost looks better and I also have accts
> > with DreamHost which is great but a little expensive but great
> > bandwidth and server speed. At one point I had all of my sites with
> > iPower but never again, I need to spread my business out among
> > several hosts unless I can get a private server, but that won't
> > happen until I get a huge client.
> >
> > On Jan 22, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Peter Sale wrote:
> >
> >> At one time I too had my many domains and hosting with iPower.
> >> Sadly they had no tools for "managing" a large number of domains, and
> >> the wait time attempting to get their tech support on the phone was a
> >> big time waster. I moved my 80+ domains over to GoDaddy, and I use
> >> just one of their hosting plans for all of my real estate slideshow
> >> sites, for example, www.3019third.com, www.2115third.com,
> >> www.1027ashland.com, www.2620twentyfourth.com, et. al. They are
> >> great, they answer the phone in 2-5 minutes most of the time, their
> >> domain management tools are great, and they are very inexpensive for
> >> both hosting and domain registration.
> >>
> >> _
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Peter Sale
> >> Santa Monica CA USA
> >>
> >
> > Cheers
> > Robert C. Fisher
> > VR Photography/Cinematography
>

   A  Y  R  T  O  N
 (55-21) 9982.6313

 www.rio360.com.br
   www.vrfolio.com
   www.ayrton.com
    rio.360cities.net

[Robert Fisher-5]

Hi Peter

On Jan 22, 2008, at 11:20 AM, Peter Sale wrote:

> 1. I do not understand why, if you register most of your domains  
> through GoDaddy, you do not wish to also purchase hosting from
> them? What is the connection between domain registration and hosting?
GoDaddy in the past has gotten caught doing some really shady things  
when you search for domains like holding it up for a higher price,  
saying it's registered then offering it to you for way more money.  
Network Solutions just got caught doing this recently. I had heard  
rumblings of Godaddy doing this in the past, don't know about now.  
Also if you become dissatisfied and try to change hosts they can do  
some funny things to you and make the transfer very difficult, I have  
had this happen once so never again!
>
> 2. Will I see better download performance with my slideshows and/or  
> my VR images (www.petersVRProperties.com, if I host with
> Bluehost or DreamHost?
If you have a lot of visitors, say more than 100/day, then yes you  
will see better performance. I have had some of my VRs viewed by many  
1000's per day for periods in the recent past and choked the server  
on another host. Nothing lately since I have had a ton of other stuff  
going on.
>
> 3. Can you please list one or more of your sites that is hosted on  
> either BlueHost or DreamHost so that I can "see" what you're
> referring to? Will a site visitor "see" the difference?
Right now I have several sites on Dreamhost, here is the 2007 IVRPA  
Conference Video site.

http://cfish-media.com/conference_a.html

There are some interesting videos you can purchase and download, as  
well as DVDs. Dreamhost also has a service set up so you can market  
and sell file downloads which I researched for a month or so and  
could not find another service like it. So far this has worked very  
well! There is a session on VRs in Real Estate that may be of interest.

>
> _
> Best Regards,
> Peter Sale
>

Cheers
Robert C. Fisher
VR Photography/Cinematography

[fierodeval]

In the past I had a lot of problems with Bluehost, because a very slow
hosting. I tested Dreamhost too, and it was worse than Bluehost.

Maybe it does not exist the perfect hosting...

regards!



--- In [hidden email], "Peter Sale" <yahoo_groups@...> wrote:
>
> 1. I do not understand why, if you register most of your domains
through GoDaddy, you do not wish to also purchase hosting from
> them? What is the connection between domain registration and hosting?
>
> 2. Will I see better download performance with my slideshows and/or
my VR images (www.petersVRProperties.com, if I host with
> Bluehost or DreamHost?
>
> 3. Can you please list one or more of your sites that is hosted on
either BlueHost or DreamHost so that I can "see" what you're

> referring to? Will a site visitor "see" the difference?
>
> _
> Best Regards,
> Peter Sale
>
> -
> On Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:49 AM, Robert C. Fisher wrote:
>
> > I already register most of my domains through Godaddy so I really
> > don't want to do my webhosting there. Also they seem a bit
> > underpowered for my use. Bluehost looks better and I also have accts
> > with DreamHost which is great but a little expensive but great
> > bandwidth and server speed. At one point I had all of my sites with
> > iPower but never again, I need to spread my business out among
> > several hosts unless I can get a private server, but that won't
> > happen until I get a huge client.      
> >
> > On Jan 22, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Peter Sale wrote:
> >
> >> At one time I too had my many domains and hosting with iPower.
> >> Sadly they had no tools for "managing" a large number of domains, and
> >> the wait time attempting to get their tech support on the phone was a
> >> big time waster. I moved my 80+ domains over to GoDaddy, and I use
> >> just one of their hosting plans for all of my real estate slideshow
> >> sites, for example, www.3019third.com, www.2115third.com,
> >> www.1027ashland.com, www.2620twentyfourth.com, et. al. They are
> >> great, they answer the phone in 2-5 minutes most of the time, their
> >> domain management tools are great, and they are very inexpensive for
> >> both hosting and domain registration.
> >>
> >> _
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Peter Sale
> >> Santa Monica CA USA
> >>
> >
> > Cheers
> > Robert C. Fisher
> > VR Photography/Cinematography
>

[Robert Fisher-5]

Well that could be because you are so far away. What country are you in?

I have run tests here, S California, and speed from Dreamhost was  
better than average. Dreamhost is located in S California so they are  
close and so is iPower btw. My only issue with Dreamhost is the silly  
email tech support, phone support is an extra $9.95/mo.

On Jan 22, 2008, at 2:00 PM, fierodeval wrote:

> In the past I had a lot of problems with Bluehost, because a very slow
> hosting. I tested Dreamhost too, and it was worse than Bluehost.
>
> Maybe it does not exist the perfect hosting...
>
> regards!
>

Cheers
Robert C. Fisher
VR Photography/Cinematography

[fierodeval]

Maybe yes. I'm in Spain.

Now I use a server in UK (for devalvr.com) with
http://www.resellerpanel.com/ (They have servers in USA and UK)

fiero

--- In [hidden email], "Robert C. Fisher" <bob@...> wrote:

>
> Well that could be because you are so far away. What country are you in?
>
> I have run tests here, S California, and speed from Dreamhost was  
> better than average. Dreamhost is located in S California so they are  
> close and so is iPower btw. My only issue with Dreamhost is the silly  
> email tech support, phone support is an extra $9.95/mo.
>
> On Jan 22, 2008, at 2:00 PM, fierodeval wrote:
>
> > In the past I had a lot of problems with Bluehost, because a very slow
> > hosting. I tested Dreamhost too, and it was worse than Bluehost.
> >
> > Maybe it does not exist the perfect hosting...
> >
> > regards!
> >
>
> Cheers
> Robert C. Fisher
> VR Photography/Cinematography
>

[Keith Martin-2]

Sometime around 22/1/08 (at 16:02 -0800) Robert C. Fisher said:

>My only issue with Dreamhost is the silly
>email tech support, phone support is an extra $9.95/mo.

Just for the record, I've always had excellent - as in 'extra mile' -
email support from Dreamhost. And it has also always been
surprisingly quick. Not as fast as phone support would be, but I've
always had good and complete help and answers. (In once case,
including detailed info on how to install a self-contained build of
PHP for one domain so I could do something not supported in the
normal shared DH builds.

k

[Ken Warner-2]

For my $0.02 -- I use Bluehost.  Reasonably good tech support
and cheap for the bandwidth and storage.  No complaints.

But I must add that my site is not a high volume site.  It's more
for my hobby which is attempting to build Java viewers for cylindrical
and spherical panos...

http://pancyl.com/

Ken

Keith Martin wrote:

> Sometime around 22/1/08 (at 16:02 -0800) Robert C. Fisher said:
>
>
>>My only issue with Dreamhost is the silly
>>email tech support, phone support is an extra $9.95/mo.
>
>
> Just for the record, I've always had excellent - as in 'extra mile' -
> email support from Dreamhost. And it has also always been
> surprisingly quick. Not as fast as phone support would be, but I've
> always had good and complete help and answers. (In once case,
> including detailed info on how to install a self-contained build of
> PHP for one domain so I could do something not supported in the
> normal shared DH builds.
>
> k
>

[verifone411-2]

Check out bluehostfourms.com   The moderators there are not helpful.
Advise everyone the same thing, to submit a support ticket.

There you can see the complaints about CPU Exceeeded errors which is
plaging many a site.

--- In [hidden email], Ken Warner <kwarner@...> wrote:

>
> For my $0.02 -- I use Bluehost.  Reasonably good tech support
> and cheap for the bandwidth and storage.  No complaints.
>
> But I must add that my site is not a high volume site.  It's more
> for my hobby which is attempting to build Java viewers for cylindrical
> and spherical panos...
>
> http://pancyl.com/
>
> Ken

[Sacha Griffin]

For what its worth,

Stay away from Powervps.

They use virtualalization from virtuozzo.

It very hard to find out what resources you are actually guaranteed, one two
occasions we purchased extra resources to never have them delivered.

After 2 months of support tickets back and forth asking for confirmation
that the resources were implemented properly. We finally discovered the way
to see what had been assigned.

Even with root access to the nix system, it will only show the ram/cpu
installed for the real server. You are allow use the full system resources,
but if you go over an it affect other clients guarantees,

Your services are killed off randomly without prejudice, which even includes
daemons that monitor services and restart them. In effect, you have to
manually restart your server ever week or so if you're using your resources
near your limits.

A year ago, powervps support was beyond excellent with support and customer
service. Now there are very few technicians that can actually answer your
questions or provide you help.

Support and customer service tickets are frequently completely ignored for
weeks at a time.

And no refunds are given for upgrades, even upgrades never delivered.

 

I would recommend godaddy hosting. You can get a complete dedicated server
for around a thousand yearly with 2 gigs of ram.

 

Sacha Griffin

Southern Digital Solutions LLC - Atlanta, Georgia

www.southern-digital.com

www.seeit360.net

www.ezphotosafe.com

404-551-4275

404-731-7798

 

 

 

 

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On
Behalf Of verifone411
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:28 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Re: earth to Carel Struycken

 

Check out bluehostfourms.com The moderators there are not helpful.
Advise everyone the same thing, to submit a support ticket.

There you can see the complaints about CPU Exceeeded errors which is
plaging many a site.

--- In [hidden email] <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com> ,
Ken Warner <kwarner@...> wrote:

>
> For my $0.02 -- I use Bluehost. Reasonably good tech support
> and cheap for the bandwidth and storage. No complaints.
>
> But I must add that my site is not a high volume site. It's more
> for my hobby which is attempting to build Java viewers for cylindrical
> and spherical panos...
>
> http://pancyl.com/
>
> Ken

 



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