some HD fun

[Colin Holgate-2]

In answering a question on a Director list about whether Rev could handle HD video, I just made this test:

http://xfiles.funnygarbage.com/~colinholgate/rev/hdplayer/

Here are a couple of alternate first lines for the field:

set the filename of player 1 to "http://movies.apple.com/movies/wb/terminatorsalvation/terminatorsalvation-4minclip_720p.mov"
set the filename of player 1 to "http://movies.apple.com/movies/wb/harrypotterandthehalfbloodprince/harrypotterhalfbloodprince-clip_1080p.mov"



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[Richmond Mathewson-2]

Colin Holgate wrote:

> In answering a question on a Director list about whether Rev could handle HD video, I just made this test:
>
> http://xfiles.funnygarbage.com/~colinholgate/rev/hdplayer/
>
> Here are a couple of alternate first lines for the field:
>
> set the filename of player 1 to "http://movies.apple.com/movies/wb/terminatorsalvation/terminatorsalvation-4minclip_720p.mov"
> set the filename of player 1 to "http://movies.apple.com/movies/wb/harrypotterandthehalfbloodprince/harrypotterhalfbloodprince-clip_1080p.mov"
>
>
>  

Well, it gave my G4 an upset stomach (Safari froze); whether that is
because I'm running a G4
with 'only' 2GB RAM, or whether it is something to do with the revlet, I
don't know.

Presumably, by the "tone" of your message it can be done (at least on
your machine).
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[Colin Holgate-2]

On Nov 11, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

>> set the filename of player 1 to "http://movies.apple.com/movies/wb/terminatorsalvation/terminatorsalvation-4minclip_720p.mov"
>> set the filename of player 1 to "http://movies.apple.com/movies/wb/harrypotterandthehalfbloodprince/harrypotterhalfbloodprince-clip_1080p.mov"
>


The trailers are high data rate HD ones, so they need a fast connection. You might try clicking on the links above, to see if there's any hope of it working for you.


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[David Coker]

>In answering a question on a Director list about whether Rev could handle HD video, I just
>made this test:

>http://xfiles.funnygarbage.com/~colinholgate/rev/hdplayer/



Works here on my Vista laptop, running only 3MB of RAM...

Nifty!

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[Richmond Mathewson-2]

Colin Holgate wrote:

> On Nov 11, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
>
>  
>>> set the filename of player 1 to "http://movies.apple.com/movies/wb/terminatorsalvation/terminatorsalvation-4minclip_720p.mov"
>>> set the filename of player 1 to "http://movies.apple.com/movies/wb/harrypotterandthehalfbloodprince/harrypotterhalfbloodprince-clip_1080p.mov"
>>>      
>
>
> The trailers are high data rate HD ones, so they need a fast connection. You might try clicking on the links above, to see if there's any hope of it working for you.
>
>
> _

Well, if it is some comfort, I cannot get these directly through the
browser, so the problem probably
does not lie with your revlet.
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[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hi there,

I didn't had the time yet to care about all this great new revlet stuff and
now, when I see this nice testsite from Colin, I stuck.

Up to no, from only crossreading all the new announcements I was thinking,
that revlets can only be hosted on the on-rev.com server. And now I see
first time in Colins URL that he runs a revlet on a "normal" server. If this
is true the revlets are even more attractive as they are yet.

Could somebody shed a bit of light on this for me in a few words, if I
understood something wrong and if so, what for is the on-rev domain offer
for 499,00 (or something like that)

Thanks
Tiemo

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: [hidden email] [mailto:use-revolution-
> [hidden email]] Im Auftrag von Colin Holgate
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. November 2009 17:31
> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: some HD fun
>
> In answering a question on a Director list about whether Rev could handle
> HD video, I just made this test:
>
> http://xfiles.funnygarbage.com/~colinholgate/rev/hdplayer/
>

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[Klaus on-rev]

Hi Tiemo,

> Hi there,
>
> I didn't had the time yet to care about all this great new revlet stuff and
> now, when I see this nice testsite from Colin, I stuck.
>
> Up to no, from only crossreading all the new announcements I was thinking,
> that revlets can only be hosted on the on-rev.com server. And now I see
> first time in Colins URL that he runs a revlet on a "normal" server. If this
> is true the revlets are even more attractive as they are yet.

Yep, since Revlets are just files, their display is managed by the freely downloadable
plug-in, so this is not server dependant.

> Could somebody shed a bit of light on this for me in a few words, if I
> understood something wrong and if so, what for is the on-rev domain offer
> for 499,00 (or something like that)

ON-REV is the only way in the moment to have the nice iRev scripts which is some
kind of server-sided scripting/cgi.

But the mothership also announced that the server plug-in(?) will be made available
some time after the release of Rev 4.

Someone correct me please if I am wrong.

Hope that clears some things :-)

> Thanks

> Tiemo

Best

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[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hi Klaus,
one answer - one new question :)
up to now I thought the code which is written in xtalk and runs in the
runrev plugin in a browser IS a iRev script?!
Obviously I am missing some basics iRev - revlet - plugin - on-rev ...
Thanks
Tiemo

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> Von: [hidden email] [mailto:use-revolution-
> [hidden email]] Im Auftrag von Klaus on-rev
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. November 2009 19:14
> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: revlet not only on on-rev? was: some HD fun
>
> Hi Tiemo,
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I didn't had the time yet to care about all this great new revlet stuff
> and
> > now, when I see this nice testsite from Colin, I stuck.
> >
> > Up to no, from only crossreading all the new announcements I was
> thinking,
> > that revlets can only be hosted on the on-rev.com server. And now I see
> > first time in Colins URL that he runs a revlet on a "normal" server. If
> this
> > is true the revlets are even more attractive as they are yet.
>
> Yep, since Revlets are just files, their display is managed by the freely
> downloadable
> plug-in, so this is not server dependant.
>
> > Could somebody shed a bit of light on this for me in a few words, if I
> > understood something wrong and if so, what for is the on-rev domain
> offer
> > for 499,00 (or something like that)
>
> ON-REV is the only way in the moment to have the nice iRev scripts which
> is some
> kind of server-sided scripting/cgi.
>
> But the mothership also announced that the server plug-in(?) will be made
> available
> some time after the release of Rev 4.
>
> Someone correct me please if I am wrong.
>
> Hope that clears some things :-)
>
> > Thanks
>
> > Tiemo
>
> Best
>
> Klaus
>
> --
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> http://www.major-k.de
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Hi Tiemo,

> Hi Klaus,
> one answer - one new question :)
> up to now I thought the code which is written in xtalk and runs in the
> runrev plugin in a browser IS a iRev script?!

No :-)

> Obviously I am missing some basics iRev - revlet - plugin - on-rev ...

Check <http://www.on-rev.com> for some info about errm... on.rev ;-)

> Thanks
> Tiemo

Best

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Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
> Hi Klaus,
> one answer - one new question :)
> up to now I thought the code which is written in xtalk and runs in the
> runrev plugin in a browser IS a iRev script?!
> Obviously I am missing some basics iRev - revlet - plugin - on-rev ...

There are two new web technologies. One is client-based and the other is
server-based.

1. On-rev (irev): This is the server-based technology. It allows you to
write web pages (called "irev" pages) using RevTalk. This works exactly
like PHP, and you can mix HTML and irev scripts together in your web
page code. The scripts are interpreted by software on the server, which
then sends the final HTML output to the user's browser. You need an
account with On-Rev right now if you want to use this, because only the
RR server has the software to interpret irev scripting. Eventually RR
plans to release the software for installation on any server, but that
isn't ready yet.

2. Revlets: This is the client-based technology. The user downloads a
browser plug-in which allows stacks to run inside a browser window, much
like Flash or QT does. Because the plug-in is on the user's hard drive,
revlets can run from anywhere. You can place your revlet on any server,
just like you can store QT movies on any server. The plug-in downloads
the file and does all the work inside the browser.

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[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hello Jacqueline,

excellent explanation. I always mixed it up. Now the technical view is
clear. Perhaps you would like to give me also a brief example for an irev
app, what you can't do with a revlet? Is it "just" having a host service and
being able to connect to DBs without PHP or cgi? Probably not, probably irev
is much more powerful, but I don't see it yet. With a revlet you can also
mix HTML and xtalk (embedded in a plugin) in a web page. Yes Klaus, I have
read on-rev home ;)
Thank you
Tiemo

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: [hidden email] [mailto:use-revolution-
> [hidden email]] Im Auftrag von J. Landman Gay
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. November 2009 22:36
> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: AW: revlet not only on on-rev? was: some HD fun
>
> Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
> > Hi Klaus,
> > one answer - one new question :)
> > up to now I thought the code which is written in xtalk and runs in the
> > runrev plugin in a browser IS a iRev script?!
> > Obviously I am missing some basics iRev - revlet - plugin - on-rev ...
>
> There are two new web technologies. One is client-based and the other is
> server-based.
>
> 1. On-rev (irev): This is the server-based technology. It allows you to
> write web pages (called "irev" pages) using RevTalk. This works exactly
> like PHP, and you can mix HTML and irev scripts together in your web
> page code. The scripts are interpreted by software on the server, which
> then sends the final HTML output to the user's browser. You need an
> account with On-Rev right now if you want to use this, because only the
> RR server has the software to interpret irev scripting. Eventually RR
> plans to release the software for installation on any server, but that
> isn't ready yet.
>
> 2. Revlets: This is the client-based technology. The user downloads a
> browser plug-in which allows stacks to run inside a browser window, much
> like Flash or QT does. Because the plug-in is on the user's hard drive,
> revlets can run from anywhere. You can place your revlet on any server,
> just like you can store QT movies on any server. The plug-in downloads
> the file and does all the work inside the browser.
>
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[Sarah Reichelt-2]

> excellent explanation. I always mixed it up. Now the technical view is
> clear. Perhaps you would like to give me also a brief example for an irev
> app, what you can't do with a revlet? Is it "just" having a host service and
> being able to connect to DBs without PHP or cgi? Probably not, probably irev
> is much more powerful, but I don't see it yet. With a revlet you can also
> mix HTML and xtalk (embedded in a plugin) in a web page. Yes Klaus, I have
> read on-rev home ;)

iRev allows you to script dynamic web pages that just work without
your viewers having to download or install any plugins.
You can think of it as a replacement for PHP & CGI scripts, but not
JavaScript as it is server-side scripting, not client-side.
You can change the page that is sent to a browser as it is requested,
but you cannot change a page in response to a user interaction without
using JavaScript too.

Have a look at the examples on my On-Rev page to see some of the
things you can do <http://www.troz.net/onrev/>.
My whole site is now built using On-Rev scripting which takes text
files listing stacks or revlets or web links and builds it all as
requested.

Basically, revlets allow you to put stacks on a web page. iRev
scripting allows you to build dynamic web pages without a plugin.

Cheers,
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[Richard Miller-5]

Is that what others are finding as well..... that setting the cursor to
busy under revweb has no effect? I'm testing under XP. Perhaps this is a
known issue, but I couldn't tell for sure.

If this is a problem and isn't going to be fixed very shortly, I'll need
to revise all those lines of code to provide some other type of feedback
to users. So before undertaking that task, I'm checking in with others.

Thanks.
Richard Miller
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[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hi Sarah,
thank you for your clear explanations, now I know the direction
Tiemo

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: [hidden email] [mailto:use-revolution-
> [hidden email]] Im Auftrag von Sarah Reichelt
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. November 2009 10:19
> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: AW: revlet not only on on-rev? was: some HD fun
>
> > excellent explanation. I always mixed it up. Now the technical view is
> > clear. Perhaps you would like to give me also a brief example for an
> irev
> > app, what you can't do with a revlet? Is it "just" having a host service
> and
> > being able to connect to DBs without PHP or cgi? Probably not, probably
> irev
> > is much more powerful, but I don't see it yet. With a revlet you can
> also
> > mix HTML and xtalk (embedded in a plugin) in a web page. Yes Klaus, I
> have
> > read on-rev home ;)
>
> iRev allows you to script dynamic web pages that just work without
> your viewers having to download or install any plugins.
> You can think of it as a replacement for PHP & CGI scripts, but not
> JavaScript as it is server-side scripting, not client-side.
> You can change the page that is sent to a browser as it is requested,
> but you cannot change a page in response to a user interaction without
> using JavaScript too.
>
> Have a look at the examples on my On-Rev page to see some of the
> things you can do <http://www.troz.net/onrev/>.
> My whole site is now built using On-Rev scripting which takes text
> files listing stacks or revlets or web links and builds it all as
> requested.
>
> Basically, revlets allow you to put stacks on a web page. iRev
> scripting allows you to build dynamic web pages without a plugin.
>
> Cheers,
> Sarah
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[Dom-2]

Sarah Reichelt <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Basically, revlets allow you to put stacks on a web page. iRev
> scripting allows you to build dynamic web pages without a plugin.

Revlets are "stacks in the page"

irev scripting is "under the hood", not visible (hopefully) by the end
user, to build web pages -- avec ou sans revlet* ;-)

* by the way, is there an example of a page built with irev commands,
plus an embedded revlet?

PS: by the way also, from where do originate those "AW:" in the
subject??
I thought that the standard way to answer to a message was to prefix a
"Re: "... before the response


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[Björnke von Gierke]

On 12 Nov 2009, at 15:06, Dom wrote:

> PS: by the way also, from where do originate those "AW:" in the
> subject??
> I thought that the standard way to answer to a message was to prefix a
> "Re: "... before the response

There is no standard in multilingual environments. Try your german-
english dictionary for "Antwort", which is abbreviated by using aw.


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[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Thats correct, but I wonder, why I am always the only german guy with "AW"
in my mails. Do you others and Björnke all have english configurations or
what is the difference?
Tiemo

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> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. November 2009 15:49
> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: revlet not only on on-rev? was: some HD fun
>
> On 12 Nov 2009, at 15:06, Dom wrote:
>
> > PS: by the way also, from where do originate those "AW:" in the
> > subject??
> > I thought that the standard way to answer to a message was to prefix a
> > "Re: "... before the response
>
> There is no standard in multilingual environments. Try your german-
> english dictionary for "Antwort", which is abbreviated by using aw.
>
>
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[Klaus on-rev]

Hi all,:

> Is that what others are finding as well..... that setting the cursor to busy under revweb has no effect? I'm testing under XP. Perhaps this is a known issue, but I couldn't tell for sure.
>
> If this is a problem and isn't going to be fixed very shortly, I'll need to revise all those lines of code to provide some other type of feedback to users. So before undertaking that task, I'm checking in with others.

I think that is it about time that RunRev put some official info on their website about
what is (should be ;-) working in a Revlet and what does not!

Some of the things they announced have not (yet) been implemented and it would be nice
to have a central point where one can check these things.


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[Klaus on-rev]

Hi Tiemo,

> Thats correct, but I wonder, why I am always the only german guy with "AW"
> in my mails. Do you others and Björnke all have english configurations or
> what is the difference?

Many listees use a Mac and Apple's Mail, that's the difference :-)

> Tiemo

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[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

And Apple's Mail doesn't speaks german? ;)

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: [hidden email] [mailto:use-revolution-
> [hidden email]] Im Auftrag von Klaus on-rev
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. November 2009 18:54
> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: AW: OT: what is "AW",was: revlet not only on on-rev? was:
> some HD fun
>
> Hi Tiemo,
>
> > Thats correct, but I wonder, why I am always the only german guy with
> "AW"
> > in my mails. Do you others and Björnke all have english configurations
> or
> > what is the difference?
>
> Many listees use a Mac and Apple's Mail, that's the difference :-)
>
> > Tiemo
>
> Best
>
> Klaus
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