tool to design xform

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tool to design xform

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form the official site, the only tool availble to design the form is using Orbeon Forms 3.6.0 builder. is there other way? any plugin for eclipse? I saw from forum, they mentioned about plugin for eclipse, but there is no link to download from the official site? how about netbeans...? can anyone list all the availble tools available to speed up the development?

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malcolm arnold

Re: tool to design xform

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There's an eclipse plug-in here: http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/vxd

But I wouldn't recommend it. I tried it, and it was flakey as hell.
(I wanted to build an XForm automatically from a XML Schema...) Also
doesn't look like it's been updated since 2006...

Regards,
Malcolm

2008/5/21 cw <[hidden email]>:

> form the official site, the only tool availble to design the form is using
> Orbeon Forms 3.6.0 builder. is there other way? any plugin for eclipse? I
> saw from forum, they mentioned about plugin for eclipse, but there is no
> link to download from the official site? how about netbeans...? can anyone
> list all the availble tools available to speed up the development?
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Richard C.

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On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:09:11 +0100
"Malcolm Arnold" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> There's an eclipse plug-in here: http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/vxd
>
> But I wouldn't recommend it. I tried it, and it was flakey as hell.
> (I wanted to build an XForm automatically from a XML Schema...) Also
> doesn't look like it's been updated since 2006...
>
> Regards,
> Malcolm

same opinion!

rich

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fs(ops-users)

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> form the official site, the only tool availble to design the form is
> using Orbeon Forms 3.6.0 builder. is there other way? any plugin for
> eclipse? I saw from forum, they mentioned about plugin for eclipse, but
> there is no link to download from the official site? how about
> netbeans...? can anyone list all the availble tools available to speed
> up the development?

The eclipse plugin ("Orbeon Studio") can be found here:
http://forge.objectweb.org/projects/ops/

But personally, i prefer using eclipse without that plugin - AFAIK it
isn't maintained any more, and there may be problems with newer versions
of eclipse. IMHO it's preferable to add the xforms-related schemata to
eclipse's schema catalogue (there are directions in the mailing-list
archives how to do this) and use the xml editor tools available for
eclipse to create the different files.

HTH
florian

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djalma.saraiva

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Some javascript/style in this post has been disabled (why?)

There is a tool Intalio | BPMS Designer. It is a plug of the eclipse.

You can find at: http://bpms.intalio.com/downloads.html

Djalma Saraiva
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form the official site, the only tool availble to design the form is using Orbeon Forms 3.6.0 builder. is there other way? any plugin for eclipse? I saw from forum, they mentioned about plugin for eclipse, but there is no link to download from the official site? how about netbeans...? can anyone list all the availble tools available to speed up the development?

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Erik Bruchez

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On May 21, 2008, at 3:27 AM, Florian Schmitt wrote:

>> form the official site, the only tool availble to design the form
>> is using Orbeon Forms 3.6.0 builder. is there other way? any plugin
>> for eclipse? I saw from forum, they mentioned about plugin for
>> eclipse, but there is no link to download from the official site?
>> how about netbeans...? can anyone list all the availble tools
>> available to speed up the development?
>
> The eclipse plugin ("Orbeon Studio") can be found here:
> http://forge.objectweb.org/projects/ops/
>
> But personally, i prefer using eclipse without that plugin - AFAIK it
> isn't maintained any more, and there may be problems with newer
> versions
> of eclipse. IMHO it's preferable to add the xforms-related schemata to
> eclipse's schema catalogue (there are directions in the mailing-list
> archives how to do this) and use the xml editor tools available for
> eclipse to create the different files.

Absolutely right. We won't work on that plugin anymore. And it is not
really for designing forms anyway.

-Erik

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Erik Bruchez

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> form the official site, the only tool availble to design the form is
> using Orbeon Forms 3.6.0 builder. is there other way? any plugin for
> eclipse? I saw from forum, they mentioned about plugin for eclipse,
> but there is no link to download from the official site? how about
> netbeans...? can anyone list all the availble tools available to
> speed up the development?

There is no Form Builder in Orbeon Forms 3.6. We have a new Form
Builder in alpha now, as you may have seen:

http://www.orbeon.com/forms/builder

A couple of questions:

* Why do you want an Eclipse plugin?

* Are you interested in a visual form designer, or in a text-based XML
editor?

-Erik

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zhang99

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i interested in visual designer not text base editing

Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote:

> form the official site, the only tool availble to design the form is
> using Orbeon Forms 3.6.0 builder. is there other way? any plugin for
> eclipse? I saw from forum, they mentioned about plugin for eclipse,
> but there is no link to download from the official site? how about
> netbeans...? can anyone list all the availble tools available to
> speed up the development?

There is no Form Builder in Orbeon Forms 3.6. We have a new Form
Builder in alpha now, as you may have seen:

http://www.orbeon.com/forms/builder

A couple of questions:

* Why do you want an Eclipse plugin?

* Are you interested in a visual form designer, or in a text-based XML
editor?

-Erik

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Erik Bruchez

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Ok, then Form Builder will be your solution as far as Orbeon is
concerned.

It doesn't run as an Eclipse plugin, but there is no reason you
couldn't run it within a browser embedded into Eclipse.

-Erik

On May 21, 2008, at 8:17 AM, cw wrote:

> i interested in visual designer not text base editing
>
> Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote: > form the official site,
> the only tool availble to design the form is
> > using Orbeon Forms 3.6.0 builder. is there other way? any plugin for
> > eclipse? I saw from forum, they mentioned about plugin for eclipse,
> > but there is no link to download from the official site? how about
> > netbeans...? can anyone list all the availble tools available to
> > speed up the development?
>
> There is no Form Builder in Orbeon Forms 3.6. We have a new Form
> Builder in alpha now, as you may have seen:
>
> http://www.orbeon.com/forms/builder
>
> A couple of questions:
>
> * Why do you want an Eclipse plugin?
>
> * Are you interested in a visual form designer, or in a text-based XML
> editor?
>
> -Erik
>
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Hugues Malphettes

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I am excited to hear interest in this area.

We are planning to work on an eclipse feature to integrate the
form-builder in eclipse:
- launch the form-builder from eclipse when an xform is edited.
- save the form in the eclipse-project.
It will consist of packaging the form-builder as an osgi-bundle and
then to implement the persistence layer of orbeon that saves the form.

If that sounds like a good idea we would like to develop it within the
orbeon community.
We have not started the actual development for this.

Hugues

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Ok, then Form Builder will be your solution as far as Orbeon is concerned.
>
> It doesn't run as an Eclipse plugin, but there is no reason you couldn't run
> it within a browser embedded into Eclipse.
>
> -Erik
>
> On May 21, 2008, at 8:17 AM, cw wrote:
>
>> i interested in visual designer not text base editing
>>
>> Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote: > form the official site, the
>> only tool availble to design the form is
>> > using Orbeon Forms 3.6.0 builder. is there other way? any plugin for
>> > eclipse? I saw from forum, they mentioned about plugin for eclipse,
>> > but there is no link to download from the official site? how about
>> > netbeans...? can anyone list all the availble tools available to
>> > speed up the development?
>>
>> There is no Form Builder in Orbeon Forms 3.6. We have a new Form
>> Builder in alpha now, as you may have seen:
>>
>> http://www.orbeon.com/forms/builder
>>
>> A couple of questions:
>>
>> * Why do you want an Eclipse plugin?
>>
>> * Are you interested in a visual form designer, or in a text-based XML
>> editor?
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>> --
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>> http://www.orbeon.com/
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Erik Bruchez

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Hugues,

As far as we are concerned at Orbeon, that sounds great!

-Erik

On May 21, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Hugues Malphettes wrote:

> I am excited to hear interest in this area.
>
> We are planning to work on an eclipse feature to integrate the
> form-builder in eclipse:
> - launch the form-builder from eclipse when an xform is edited.
> - save the form in the eclipse-project.
> It will consist of packaging the form-builder as an osgi-bundle and
> then to implement the persistence layer of orbeon that saves the form.
>
> If that sounds like a good idea we would like to develop it within the
> orbeon community.
> We have not started the actual development for this.
>
> Hugues
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>> Ok, then Form Builder will be your solution as far as Orbeon is
>> concerned.
>>
>> It doesn't run as an Eclipse plugin, but there is no reason you
>> couldn't run
>> it within a browser embedded into Eclipse.
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>> On May 21, 2008, at 8:17 AM, cw wrote:
>>
>>> i interested in visual designer not text base editing
>>>
>>> Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote: > form the official
>>> site, the
>>> only tool availble to design the form is
>>>> using Orbeon Forms 3.6.0 builder. is there other way? any plugin
>>>> for
>>>> eclipse? I saw from forum, they mentioned about plugin for eclipse,
>>>> but there is no link to download from the official site? how about
>>>> netbeans...? can anyone list all the availble tools available to
>>>> speed up the development?
>>>
>>> There is no Form Builder in Orbeon Forms 3.6. We have a new Form
>>> Builder in alpha now, as you may have seen:
>>>
>>> http://www.orbeon.com/forms/builder
>>>
>>> A couple of questions:
>>>
>>> * Why do you want an Eclipse plugin?
>>>
>>> * Are you interested in a visual form designer, or in a text-based
>>> XML
>>> editor?
>>>
>>> -Erik
>>>
>>> --
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>>> http://www.orbeon.com/
>>>
>>>
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Hugues Malphettes

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Hi everyone,

I started the prototype of an eclipse plugin to "wrap" orbeon's form builder.
It depends only on the minimal eclipse distribution ("eclipse
platform", version 3.3 or 3.4)
1- Browse to locate orbeon's war or orbeon's webapp folder
2- Double click on an *.xform" file or ".xform2" file
This lazily starts a JettyServer on port 18080 that launches the orbeon webapp.
Then it open the embedded browser as if it was an editor (see attached
screenshot)

I have attached the sources of the plugin that does this.
Currently with a copyright Intalio and a license EPL (opened for discussion).
If you are interested in trying it, Open an eclipse-PDE (Eclipse-SDK
aka classic for example) and import the attached archived project.
Then run eclipse in development mode as usual with PDE.

Next step consists of implementing the crud servlet that would receive
the load and save requests from orbeon to load the corresponding xform
in the eclipse project: currently the editor loads with a GET
htpp://localhost:127.0.0:18080/orbeon/fr/orbeon/builder
If you could point me to the code to read to understand what URL I
should place for the load and where to start for the crude servlet I
would be very grateful.

Also, I have some issues currently with the latest nightly builds.
The screenshot I have attached is for the nightly from mid-may.
With the nightly from yesterday and today, the logs (attached) show
plenty of scary statements and finish by an NPE in saxon.

I might be accumulating difficulties as I am running linux with
firefox-3.0 and I am using jetty-5.1.1 that is already embedded by
eclipse.

Let me know if this sounds interesting and give me some hints to push
it further eventually.

Cheers,
Hugues.

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hugues,
>
> As far as we are concerned at Orbeon, that sounds great!
>
> -Erik
>
> On May 21, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Hugues Malphettes wrote:
>
>> I am excited to hear interest in this area.
>>
>> We are planning to work on an eclipse feature to integrate the
>> form-builder in eclipse:
>> - launch the form-builder from eclipse when an xform is edited.
>> - save the form in the eclipse-project.
>> It will consist of packaging the form-builder as an osgi-bundle and
>> then to implement the persistence layer of orbeon that saves the form.
>>
>> If that sounds like a good idea we would like to develop it within the
>> orbeon community.
>> We have not started the actual development for this.
>>
>> Hugues
>>
>> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok, then Form Builder will be your solution as far as Orbeon is
>>> concerned.
>>>
>>> It doesn't run as an Eclipse plugin, but there is no reason you couldn't
>>> run
>>> it within a browser embedded into Eclipse.
>>>
>>> -Erik
>>>
>>> On May 21, 2008, at 8:17 AM, cw wrote:
>>>
>>>> i interested in visual designer not text base editing
>>>>
>>>> Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote: > form the official site, the
>>>> only tool availble to design the form is
>>>>>
>>>>> using Orbeon Forms 3.6.0 builder. is there other way? any plugin for
>>>>> eclipse? I saw from forum, they mentioned about plugin for eclipse,
>>>>> but there is no link to download from the official site? how about
>>>>> netbeans...? can anyone list all the availble tools available to
>>>>> speed up the development?
>>>>
>>>> There is no Form Builder in Orbeon Forms 3.6. We have a new Form
>>>> Builder in alpha now, as you may have seen:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.orbeon.com/forms/builder
>>>>
>>>> A couple of questions:
>>>>
>>>> * Why do you want an Eclipse plugin?
>>>>
>>>> * Are you interested in a visual form designer, or in a text-based XML
>>>> editor?
>>>>
>>>> -Erik
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Orbeon Forms - Web Forms for the Enterprise Done the Right Way
>>>> http://www.orbeon.com/
>>>>
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Stack-trace when running with the 2nd of July nightly
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I had to move the xerces-impl from 'lib/private' to 'lib'.

INFO: Started org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.WebApplicationHandler@c3bb57
Starting Orbeon Forms Release 3.6.0.200807020138
Initializing Resource Manager with: {oxf.resources.priority.1.oxf.resources.webapp.rootdir=/WEB-INF/resources, oxf.resources.priority.1=org.orbeon.oxf.resources.WebAppResourceManagerFactory, oxf.resources.priority.2=org.orbeon.oxf.resources.ClassLoaderResourceManagerFactory, oxf.resources.factory=org.orbeon.oxf.resources.PriorityResourceManagerFactory, org.orbeon.oxf.resources.WebAppResourceManagerImplServletContext=ServletContext[WebApplicationContext[/orbeon,Orbeon Forms 3.6.0]]}
2008-07-02 22:36:43,472 INFO ProcessorService - Servlet - Servlet initialized.
2008-07-02 22:36:43,478 INFO ProcessorService - Servlet - Servlet initialized.
2008-07-02 22:36:43,505 INFO EXistServlet - EXistServlet: exist.home=/home/hmalphettes/proj/orbeon/orbeon-2.6.0.20080702.war/WEB-INF
2008-07-02 22:36:43,505 INFO EXistServlet - reading configuration from /home/hmalphettes/proj/orbeon/orbeon-2.6.0.20080702.war/WEB-INF/exist-conf.xml
2008-07-02 22:36:43,516 INFO Configuration - Reading configuration from file /home/hmalphettes/proj/orbeon/orbeon-2.6.0.20080702.war/WEB-INF/exist-conf.xml
2008-07-02 22:36:44,074 WARN eXistURLStreamHandlerFactory - The JVM has already an URLStreamHandlerFactory registered, skipping...
2008-07-02 22:36:44,074 INFO eXistURLStreamHandlerFactory - Setting java.protocol.handler.pkgs to org.exist.protocolhandler.protocols
2008-07-02 22:36:44,089 INFO Configuration - Add catalog uri file:/home/hmalphettes/proj/orbeon/orbeon-2.6.0.20080702.war//WEB-INF/catalog.xml
2008-07-02 22:36:44,091 INFO GrammarPool - Initializing GrammarPool.
2008-07-02 22:36:44,093 INFO EXistServlet - configuring eXist instance
2008-07-02 22:36:44,178 INFO SimpleThreadPool - Job execution threads will use class loader of thread: Worker-0
2008-07-02 22:36:44,207 INFO QuartzScheduler - Quartz Scheduler v.1.6.0 created.
2008-07-02 22:36:44,210 INFO RAMJobStore - RAMJobStore initialized.
2008-07-02 22:36:44,210 INFO StdSchedulerFactory - Quartz scheduler 'exist_QuartzScheduler' initialized from an externally provided properties instance.
2008-07-02 22:36:44,210 INFO StdSchedulerFactory - Quartz scheduler version: 1.6.0
2008-07-02 22:36:44,251 INFO DefaultCacheManager - Cache settings: totalPages: 12,288; maxCacheSize: 11,059
2008-07-02 22:36:44,253 WARN AgentFactory - Class not found for JMX agent: org.exist.management.impl.JMXAgent
2008-07-02 22:36:44,259 INFO XQueryPool - QueryPool: size = 128; maxStackSize = 5; timeout = 120,000; timeoutCheckInterval = 30,000
2008-07-02 22:36:44,381 INFO IndexManager - Registered index org.exist.indexing.ngram.NGramIndex as ngram-index
2008-07-02 22:36:44,383 INFO IndexManager - Registered index org.exist.fulltext.FTIndex as ft-legacy-index
2008-07-02 22:36:44,733 INFO QuartzScheduler - Scheduler exist_QuartzScheduler_$_NON_CLUSTERED started.
2008-07-02 22:36:44,765 INFO EXistServlet - registering XMLDB driver
2008-07-02 22:36:44,808 INFO EXistServlet - Using default user guest for all unauthorized requests.
2008-07-02 22:36:44,861 WARN EXistServlet - Looking for a valid Parser...
Checking for Xerces, found version Xerces-J 2.9.0 needed version Xerces-J 2.9.1
Warning: Failed find a valid Parser!

Please add an appropriate Parser to the class-path, e.g. in the 'endorsed' folder of the servlet container or in the 'endorsed' folder of the JRE.

2008-07-02 22:36:44,866 WARN EXistServlet - Looking for a valid Transformer...
Checking for Saxon, found version 8.8 needed version 9.0.0.4
Checking for Saxon, found version 8.8 needed version 9.0.0.3
Checking for Xalan, found version Xalan Java 2.5.1 needed version Xalan Java 2.7.0
Checking for Saxon, found version 8.8 needed version 8.9.0.3
Warning: Failed find a valid Transformer!

Please add an appropriate Transformer to the class-path, e.g. in the 'endorsed' folder of the servlet container or in the 'endorsed' folder of the JRE.

Jul 2, 2008 10:36:44 PM org.mortbay.util.Container start
INFO: Started WebApplicationContext[/orbeon,Orbeon Forms 3.6.0]
Jul 2, 2008 10:36:44 PM org.mortbay.http.SocketListener start
INFO: Started SocketListener on 0.0.0.0:18080
Jul 2, 2008 10:36:44 PM org.mortbay.util.Container start
INFO: Started org.mortbay.jetty.Server@10f94a0
Orbeon is started? = true
2008-07-02 22:36:46,257 INFO ProcessorService - /fr/orbeon/builder - Received request
2008-07-02 22:36:51,898 INFO XFormsServer - XForms - log message - Could not get source form from request. Trying submission instead.
2008-07-02 22:36:52,165 INFO ProcessorService - /fr/service/resource/crud/orbeon/builder/form/form.xhtml - Received request
2008-07-02 22:36:53,284 INFO ProcessorService - /fr/service/resource/crud/orbeon/builder/form/form.xhtml - Timing: 1119 - Cache hits for cache.main: 294, fault: 70, adds: 69, expirations: 0, success rate: 80%
2008-07-02 22:36:53,901 INFO ProcessorService - /fr/service/exist/search/orbeon/builder - Received request
2008-07-02 22:36:56,537 WARN Descriptor - Giving up unable to read descriptor file from /home/hmalphettes/proj/orbeon/orbeon-2.6.0.20080702.war/WEB-INF/descriptor.xml
2008-07-02 22:36:56,538 WARN Descriptor - Giving up unable to read descriptor.xml file from classloader in package org.exist.http
2008-07-02 22:36:57,245 INFO ProcessorService - /fr/service/exist/search/orbeon/builder - Timing: 3344 - Cache hits for cache.main: 480, fault: 94, adds: 93, expirations: 0, success rate: 83%
2008-07-02 22:36:57,278 INFO XFormsServer - XForms - log message - Setting language from request:
2008-07-02 22:36:57,280 INFO XFormsServer - XForms - log message - Setting language from session:
2008-07-02 22:36:57,282 INFO XFormsServer - XForms - log message - Setting default language: en
2008-07-02 22:36:57,314 ERROR ProcessorService - Exception at line 27 of oxf:/config/xforms-widgets.xsl (evaluating XPath expression: expression='xxforms:set-session-attribute('fr-language', xs:string(instance('fr-language-instance')))')
java.lang.NullPointerException
at org.orbeon.saxon.value.StringValue.equals(StringValue.java:417)
at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.AbstractSessionManager$Session.setAttribute(AbstractSessionManager.java:835)
at org.orbeon.oxf.pipeline.InitUtils$3.setAttribute(InitUtils.java:421)
at org.orbeon.oxf.util.AttributesToMap.put(AttributesToMap.java:38)
at org.orbeon.oxf.xforms.function.xxforms.XXFormsSetScopeAttribute.storeAttribute(XXFormsSetScopeAttribute.java:55)
at org.orbeon.oxf.xforms.function.xxforms.XXFormsSetSessionAttribute.iterate(XXFormsSetSessionAttribute.java:48)
at org.orbeon.oxf.util.PooledXPathExpression.evaluate(PooledXPathExpression.java:229)
at org.orbeon.oxf.util.PooledXPathExpression.evaluateKeepNodeInfo(PooledXPathExpression.java:93)
at org.orbeon.oxf.util.XPathCache.evaluate(XPathCache.java:81)
at org.orbeon.oxf.util.XPathCache.evaluate(XPathCache.java:69)
at org.orbeon.oxf.xforms.action.actions.XFormsInsertAction.execute(XFormsInsertAction.java:112)
at org.orbeon.oxf.xforms.action.XFormsActionInterpreter.runSingleIteration(XFormsActionInterpreter.java:227)
at org.orbeon.oxf.xforms.action.XFormsActionInterpreter.runAction(XFormsActionInterpreter.java:187)

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Erik Bruchez

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: tool to design xform

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Hi Hugues,

Great work!

We have some documentation on the persistence layer which we
tentatively put here:

http://sites.google.com/a/orbeon.com/forms/
FormBuilderIntegrationNotes

Hopefully that will help.

Regarding the Saxon NPE, it is a funny one. We try to store a Saxon
AtomicValue to the session. Then Jetty attempts to make a comparison
of something to such a value to another one, which is null. Why, I
don't know. It can't be that we pass a null value to the session, if I
read my code correctly.

What's worse is that in Saxon 9, equals() on AtomicValue throws an
exception (we still use Saxon 8). So that will fail too. It seems that
this comparison doesn't happen with Tomcat.

Firefox 3 should be just fine, that's what we use.

-Erik

On Jul 2, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Hugues Malphettes wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I started the prototype of an eclipse plugin to "wrap" orbeon's form
> builder.
> It depends only on the minimal eclipse distribution ("eclipse
> platform", version 3.3 or 3.4)
> 1- Browse to locate orbeon's war or orbeon's webapp folder
> 2- Double click on an *.xform" file or ".xform2" file
> This lazily starts a JettyServer on port 18080 that launches the
> orbeon webapp.
> Then it open the embedded browser as if it was an editor (see attached
> screenshot)
>
> I have attached the sources of the plugin that does this.
> Currently with a copyright Intalio and a license EPL (opened for
> discussion).
> If you are interested in trying it, Open an eclipse-PDE (Eclipse-SDK
> aka classic for example) and import the attached archived project.
> Then run eclipse in development mode as usual with PDE.
>
>
> Next step consists of implementing the crud servlet that would receive
> the load and save requests from orbeon to load the corresponding xform
> in the eclipse project: currently the editor loads with a GET
> htpp://localhost:127.0.0:18080/orbeon/fr/orbeon/builder
> If you could point me to the code to read to understand what URL I
> should place for the load and where to start for the crude servlet I
> would be very grateful.
>
> Also, I have some issues currently with the latest nightly builds.
> The screenshot I have attached is for the nightly from mid-may.
> With the nightly from yesterday and today, the logs (attached) show
> plenty of scary statements and finish by an NPE in saxon.
>
> I might be accumulating difficulties as I am running linux with
> firefox-3.0 and I am using jetty-5.1.1 that is already embedded by
> eclipse.
>
> Let me know if this sounds interesting and give me some hints to push
> it further eventually.
>
> Cheers,
> Hugues.
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>> Hugues,
>>
>> As far as we are concerned at Orbeon, that sounds great!
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>> On May 21, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Hugues Malphettes wrote:
>>
>>> I am excited to hear interest in this area.
>>>
>>> We are planning to work on an eclipse feature to integrate the
>>> form-builder in eclipse:
>>> - launch the form-builder from eclipse when an xform is edited.
>>> - save the form in the eclipse-project.
>>> It will consist of packaging the form-builder as an osgi-bundle and
>>> then to implement the persistence layer of orbeon that saves the
>>> form.
>>>
>>> If that sounds like a good idea we would like to develop it within
>>> the
>>> orbeon community.
>>> We have not started the actual development for this.
>>>
>>> Hugues
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Erik Bruchez
>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok, then Form Builder will be your solution as far as Orbeon is
>>>> concerned.
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't run as an Eclipse plugin, but there is no reason you
>>>> couldn't
>>>> run
>>>> it within a browser embedded into Eclipse.
>>>>
>>>> -Erik
>>>>
>>>> On May 21, 2008, at 8:17 AM, cw wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> i interested in visual designer not text base editing
>>>>>
>>>>> Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote: > form the official
>>>>> site, the
>>>>> only tool availble to design the form is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> using Orbeon Forms 3.6.0 builder. is there other way? any
>>>>>> plugin for
>>>>>> eclipse? I saw from forum, they mentioned about plugin for
>>>>>> eclipse,
>>>>>> but there is no link to download from the official site? how
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> netbeans...? can anyone list all the availble tools available to
>>>>>> speed up the development?
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no Form Builder in Orbeon Forms 3.6. We have a new Form
>>>>> Builder in alpha now, as you may have seen:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.orbeon.com/forms/builder
>>>>>
>>>>> A couple of questions:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Why do you want an Eclipse plugin?
>>>>>
>>>>> * Are you interested in a visual form designer, or in a text-
>>>>> based XML
>>>>> editor?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Erik
>>>>>
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>>>>> http://www.orbeon.com/
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Hugues Malphettes

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: tool to design xform

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Thanks for the information Erik.
The documentation for the persistence layer is exactly what I needed.

I'll keep trying the various nightly builds and hope the NPE will go
away at some point.

Cheers,
Hugues.

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Hugues,
>
> Great work!
>
> We have some documentation on the persistence layer which we tentatively put
> here:
>
> http://sites.google.com/a/orbeon.com/forms/FormBuilderIntegrationNotes
>
> Hopefully that will help.
>
> Regarding the Saxon NPE, it is a funny one. We try to store a Saxon
> AtomicValue to the session. Then Jetty attempts to make a comparison of
> something to such a value to another one, which is null. Why, I don't know.
> It can't be that we pass a null value to the session, if I read my code
> correctly.
>
> What's worse is that in Saxon 9, equals() on AtomicValue throws an exception
> (we still use Saxon 8). So that will fail too. It seems that this comparison
> doesn't happen with Tomcat.
>
> Firefox 3 should be just fine, that's what we use.
>
> -Erik
>
> On Jul 2, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Hugues Malphettes wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I started the prototype of an eclipse plugin to "wrap" orbeon's form
>> builder.
>> It depends only on the minimal eclipse distribution ("eclipse
>> platform", version 3.3 or 3.4)
>> 1- Browse to locate orbeon's war or orbeon's webapp folder
>> 2- Double click on an *.xform" file or ".xform2" file
>> This lazily starts a JettyServer on port 18080 that launches the orbeon
>> webapp.
>> Then it open the embedded browser as if it was an editor (see attached
>> screenshot)
>>
>> I have attached the sources of the plugin that does this.
>> Currently with a copyright Intalio and a license EPL (opened for
>> discussion).
>> If you are interested in trying it, Open an eclipse-PDE (Eclipse-SDK
>> aka classic for example) and import the attached archived project.
>> Then run eclipse in development mode as usual with PDE.
>>
>>
>> Next step consists of implementing the crud servlet that would receive
>> the load and save requests from orbeon to load the corresponding xform
>> in the eclipse project: currently the editor loads with a GET
>> htpp://localhost:127.0.0:18080/orbeon/fr/orbeon/builder
>> If you could point me to the code to read to understand what URL I
>> should place for the load and where to start for the crude servlet I
>> would be very grateful.
>>
>> Also, I have some issues currently with the latest nightly builds.
>> The screenshot I have attached is for the nightly from mid-may.
>> With the nightly from yesterday and today, the logs (attached) show
>> plenty of scary statements and finish by an NPE in saxon.
>>
>> I might be accumulating difficulties as I am running linux with
>> firefox-3.0 and I am using jetty-5.1.1 that is already embedded by
>> eclipse.
>>
>> Let me know if this sounds interesting and give me some hints to push
>> it further eventually.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Hugues.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hugues,
>>>
>>> As far as we are concerned at Orbeon, that sounds great!
>>>
>>> -Erik
>>>
>>> On May 21, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Hugues Malphettes wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am excited to hear interest in this area.
>>>>
>>>> We are planning to work on an eclipse feature to integrate the
>>>> form-builder in eclipse:
>>>> - launch the form-builder from eclipse when an xform is edited.
>>>> - save the form in the eclipse-project.
>>>> It will consist of packaging the form-builder as an osgi-bundle and
>>>> then to implement the persistence layer of orbeon that saves the form.
>>>>
>>>> If that sounds like a good idea we would like to develop it within the
>>>> orbeon community.
>>>> We have not started the actual development for this.
>>>>
>>>> Hugues
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, then Form Builder will be your solution as far as Orbeon is
>>>>> concerned.
>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't run as an Eclipse plugin, but there is no reason you
>>>>> couldn't
>>>>> run
>>>>> it within a browser embedded into Eclipse.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Erik
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 21, 2008, at 8:17 AM, cw wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> i interested in visual designer not text base editing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote: > form the official site,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> only tool availble to design the form is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> using Orbeon Forms 3.6.0 builder. is there other way? any plugin for
>>>>>>> eclipse? I saw from forum, they mentioned about plugin for eclipse,
>>>>>>> but there is no link to download from the official site? how about
>>>>>>> netbeans...? can anyone list all the availble tools available to
>>>>>>> speed up the development?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no Form Builder in Orbeon Forms 3.6. We have a new Form
>>>>>> Builder in alpha now, as you may have seen:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.orbeon.com/forms/builder
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A couple of questions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Why do you want an Eclipse plugin?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Are you interested in a visual form designer, or in a text-based XML
>>>>>> editor?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Erik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Orbeon Forms - Web Forms for the Enterprise Done the Right Way
>>>>>> http://www.orbeon.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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